Are you going to the Foxham or Bushton rally? You bus load of Welsh people. LOL

[Chef Geoff]

Well you have got to laugh (or cry)

http://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/metal-detecting-more-wiltshire-local-history-being-flogged-off-to-strangers-for-charity/

[Sexy Legs (Leighton)]

Quote:

“The church flogged it to a busload of Welsh people for a few pounds each and it’s no longer here."

Well, if these people are so concerned about us "Welsh people" digging up their history, then why aren't they organising their own archaeological digs to find it and put it on display for their own community? They seem quite happy to leave things rotting in the ground, until we, the descendants of Owain Glyndwr decide to cross the border and take it for ourselves as compensation for centuries of English tyranny.

I'm just glad that these little weenies don't represent the attitudes of the vast majority of English folk who are, in my experience, a bloody nice bunch of people.

[handyman [Alan}]

the author of the article is Nigel Swift,  Chair of the UK-wide group Heritage Action. In a reply to an article written on their website on the 26/03.09, he writes
"We are not archaeologists Mr ********, we are ordinary people".
this brought about a response which was followed soon after another by a supportive comment to Swift's post written by a 'paul the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants'

Coincidentally, he works very closely with another anti-detectorist - paul the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants,  collaborating as co-writer to wite a book entitled "Britain's Portable Antiquity Heritage: Artefact Collecting and the Archaeological Record (Hardcover)  by Paul the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants (Author), Nigel Swift (Author)" -

note the similarity to the portable antiquity scheme title and how this was used as a subtle means to confuse the buyer into thinking it was a work produced by the PAS.

the blurb used to advertise this book [£55 a time] states
"In recent years the discourse on artefact hunting and portable antiquity collection, and their relationship to archaeology in Britain, has become dominated by a particular blend of ideas grown up around the ethos of 'liaison'.

These have had a far-reaching impact and are reflected in almost anything that is currently being written about artefact hunting and portable antiquity collection. This book takes as its starting point an examination of some of the fundamental assumptions on which this model is based and subjects the rhetoric of this discourse to careful analysis.

As a result, a somewhat disturbing alternative picture emerges. After a historical chapter, artefact hunting and collecting are discussed with reference to basic principles of archaeological practice and ethics. The phenomenon is also examined against the background of portable antiquity collecting and the antiquities trade.

The authors then move on to consider justifications offered by the advocates of collecting both in the hobby itself and the profession; the role of the media in forming public opinion; the part played by metal detecting; the use of personal collections as a means of curating Britain's archaeological record; and the role of the Treasure Process and export licences in creating a national heritage from the finds of artefact hunters. Alternative proposals for dealing with the problem are also presented.

 
basically, they are 2 men invovled on a mission, which fails to acknowledge the fantastic work that detectorists do, in recording, researching and recovering artefacts - [more than most archies come to think of it!]


one good point, is that he is allegedly, quite an expert on stained glass

[waltonbasinman]

Quote:

“The church flogged it to a busload of Welsh people for a few pounds each and it’s no longer here."

Well, if these people are so concerned about us "Welsh people" digging up their history, then why aren't they organising their own archaeological digs to find it and put it on display for their own community? They seem quite happy to leave things rotting in the ground, until we, the descendants of Owain Glyndwr decide to cross the border and take it for ourselves as compensation for centuries of English tyranny.

I'm just glad that these little weenies don't represent the attitudes of the vast majority of English folk who are, in my experience, a bloody nice bunch of people.

Not strictly true Leighton. Although that side of the border is called England it has strictly speaking not been run by a English monarch ever. The borders we recognise today are only a remnant of the unification of the kingdoms of the late Saxon period. Since this unification we have had no true English bloodline and it is well documented that the most native of all the Home peoples are the Walea ( Foreigners) or Welsh as they were called and I may be wrong but the DNA study of the last millennium has shown that most Welsh Would appear to be Irish and Scandinavian in Origin. True Welsh would account for less than 1% of the population. It made me laugh tonight on BBC Wales at Aberaeron Yacht Club and what the election wants for that part of Wales. Everyone they spoke to had a English accent.

[Chef Geoff]

The Welsh -Irish connection is not that we came from Ireland but rather both sets of ancestors came from Northern Spain, The Welsh branch absorbing and slightly changing the language while the Irish settlers seem to have brought their language with them. Both speak a Celtic language with a common ancestor, the Welsh speaking Brythonic, a language spoken in Britain and Gaul and the Irish speak a Goidelic language which is Iberian (spain).

[Sexy Legs (Leighton)]

Oh, I already knew some of that, Paul. I was just having a rant.

Good info though, mate.

 

[bymatt666 (byron)]

as they obviously read our threads, i have a message for Mr.the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants and co.....i will be on the bus...please come along and have a chat to me , face to face, instead of sniping behind your computer....you will learn that i, and my colleagues, are not the villians you like to make out we are.....byron

[Chef Geoff]

The best is Byron he can't, he lives in Poland . He's a long range sniper of the cowardly sort

[Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club]

I too have a message for mr the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants, I cant actualy say what i want to, but here is a Pre Watershed version

UP YOURS !!! YOU BRAIN DEAD SELF OPINIONATED RACIST BIGOT!!!!
And further more, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits (assuming they already dont!)

Salty

[bymatt666 (byron)]

The best is Byron he can't, he lives in Poland . He's a long range sniper of the cowardly sort
[/quote     well is'nt that just typical....tut......byron]

[Sexy Legs (Leighton)]

The best is Byron he can't, he lives in Poland . He's a long range sniper of the cowardly sort

So even though he's quite happy to be the self appointed advocate of the British people for protecting their heritage, he doesn't wish to actually live amongst those people or their heritage.

Anyone have details on his tax status?

 

[bymatt666 (byron)]

tax status = DODGER !

[PHIL YNYSBOETH]

Ive deleted my last post because it might have made me look a bit Childish lol

[seeker]

"This guy is VILE...........
He will NEVER be swayed. He is a one man crusade against detecting.
Fortunately the pro detecting archaeologists think he is a PRAT, but he is SERIOUSLY against detecting and will do anything in his power, mainly through his blog to discredit us."
but he can only do this if we let him . im fast thining the biggest thret to metaldetecting ive seen in my over 30 years in the hobby is the internet 

[Chef Geoff]

Your right he is on a crusade of hate for metal detecting, but part of me is thinking his blog is his only way to fame which he is enjoying, I think that if every detectorist stopped logging on to his blog for 6 month he would cease to exist.