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« on: March 22, 2010, 10:34:38 PM »

Peter can you give an I.D. on this lovely roman found by Bluebell on sunday.
also some idea as to age of the spear/arrow head found by phil.for the database
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 10:52:24 PM »

Hi Kev, sorry didn't get to say hello yesterday. The Roman is Constantine period, something like this:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=23671&cat=50

I've been looking for a match for Phil's pointy thing but not found it yet. I know waltonbasinman is on the case as well.

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 11:02:16 PM »

Hi Kev

Thanks for Posting.
Cheers Peter ,could you cast your knowledgeable eye on the Roman  i found Sunday

all the best
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 11:13:32 PM »

Found this one online, Phil:



'Follis' of Gallerius,  303-305 AD
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 11:18:30 PM »

Hi Leighton i was thinking on them lines

I was thinking Caesar Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus Constantine the great
Im not an expert as you know but your pic is very similar

thanks Bud !
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2010, 12:03:34 AM »

Well-spotted Leighton, you've got the right coin,but you've looked at the wrong caption on the page. It's Constantine, not Galerius. Here's another similar one:

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/bigpic.cgi?img=coins/./ric/constantine/_london_RIC_VI_103.jpg&ruler=./ric/constantine/i.html

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2010, 12:07:25 AM »

Still working on the arrow/projectile head. I think it's probably Roman, but still haven't found one the same. Most Roman (and medieval) arrowheads found in Britain are iron, so I believe it to be a pretty rare find if the ID is correct. One to show Mark I think!
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2010, 12:18:31 AM »

The regular Roman army still used bronze arrowheads up until the 5thC but these were more of the tri-lobal type for armour piercing. The Auxiliary units used iron from an earlier date (probably cultural reasons), this one bears similarity to the "normal" iron arrowhead and I would hazard a guess that it was a civilian hunting tip.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2010, 09:46:37 AM »

Well-spotted Leighton, you've got the right coin,but you've looked at the wrong caption on the page. It's Constantine, not Galerius.

I was wondering why it said Constantine on it.  Grin  Grin  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2010, 07:52:37 PM »

Peter i've emailed the "pointy thing" to the secretary of the Bowmen of gower. years ago i used to know a chap that was very knowledgeable on the history of archery...dont know if he's still there but thought some one might be able to shed some light.....nothing to lose really.
will let you know if anything comes back
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2010, 08:59:26 PM »

Her we are Phil. The second one down from the top. All the ones I have found are made of Iron so this being Bronze would appear to be rare. It is a arrowhead and the best looking one I have seen and It has been dated in other contexts to the 3rd and 4th century but is definitely Roman.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2010, 09:05:00 PM »

You did better than me Paul - all I could find are the following examples on posted on another Detecting site.

These are Roman bronze and a different design.

Great ID mate
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2010, 09:09:31 PM »

Paul is it feasible that its a copy of a roman projectile  copied by a local Celtic Tribe, wasn't Bronze used by the Celtic tribes more than the Romans?
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2010, 09:16:46 PM »

superb research there Paul.

i've been following this with interest and have learnt so much from chefs and your posts. thanks guys.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 09:17:48 PM »

Very possible Rob and It may also be made locally with what ever metal was available. Looking at its condition what I would call  "like new"  I do wonder if it may have been part of a burial  to take to the next life as it were. Perhaps a retired bowman from the army who settled locally.
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