whispers in the wind

[nfl]

hi all, just been on mlo website and heard rumours of explorer 4 coming out in the summer,hitting dealers in july, if it is true , hold on to your hats as it sopposed to be the dogs bow locks, anybody heard anything else on the subject.

[Gadget(Ian)]

This is actually a replacement for the e-trac from what i heared, the new name maybe is E-Pulse 1. So this is a new design. New name.
the good news is that a new flagship explorer is to be released later this year.
Limited information is available but here are a few facts about the new explorer 4 Some all new features that are known to been included with the new machine .
1. Colour LCD screen using advanced high definition graphics .
2. New multi pulse dual phase high power time delay system . The new system is a discriminating pulse induction system.
3. Depth is claimed to be 20 inches on coins.
4. New control box design is fairly similar to whites v3 in size but with much larger LCD meter .
5, The coil is a multi stacked coil , this means multiple coils stacked inside the housing to increase depth by a claimed 40%.
6, Details to dealers is expected July -august this year.
think i will sell my E trac now for one of these.ive been waiting for a nice pulse machine

[zorro]

any news on provisions for servicing machines in future. some rumours were that all future servicing of detectors would have to be sent to singapore!
i was told that singapore was just a manufacturing factory so would like to know from minelab themselves, sent 2 emails to them asking wherether servicing would continue to be handled in UK but got no reply from them, which is pretty poor

[1morecoin]

Sounds really good, shame it weighs 2 stone with batteries   

[nfl]

is that with the attahed t.v and microwave.

[outlaw]

I would be more worried as to howmuch its going to cost to get 20" depth on coins,

thats where most of roman lies ! 

Perhaps we ought have a competition guess the cost of new tector ?

[nfl]

i shoul imagine that the cost will be anything from 1000/1500 i also think that it may cost detecting as a hobby a bit more as if you can pull finds from 20 inch then you are really going to be taking them from situ i wonder how the archis look at this.....any thoughts.?

[1morecoin]

Cost of detector, plus personal trainer to help build muscle tissue to carry the extra weight and dig those deep holes.    think i will stick with the T2.

Steve.

[outlaw]

Quite deep to dig out a bottle top 

[kaister]

does it come with a bobcat or jcb to to the digging to nearly 2 foot?

[zorro]

paulywow makes a very good point. it may prove an interesting argument from an archie point of view.
I personally have fund a £2 coin at over 17" on sand with a sovereign xs2a, verified by beachboy. my guess on price is in the £1500 region, as the new whites is coming in just below that, which also has a coloured LCD screen.
what i cant wait for though is the "field test" articles that will appear in some detecting magazines. you know these "testers" are going to fields that have been worn out only to find 3 hoards, 2 torc's and a childs lead toy soldier.
with claims that "not only did i locate a hammered coin at 30" but the machine even told me that it was an edward 1st shilling head side facing up....."
and convincing us that with this new detector you'll become rich beyond your wildest dreams. (whilst said reporter fails to mention he's just been given a free machine for his trouble)
Let the bull sh*t begin.

[igglepiggle]

detecting is a numbers game

the more you go out the more you find

 if you are willing to believe the hype then good luck on your  £1500 magic wand

the old addage is" you have to pass over it to find it"

this would always be in your mind " how can I know for sure that I wouldn't have found it with my old machine"

[outlaw]

Well Zorrow, has reality just struck home ! Exactly the same when e.trac was launched, old fields suddenly and mysteriously become alive ha ha.

Although I am happy as larry with my se pro, there is still an awful amount of explorer 11 users still out there and that speaks for its self.

I sometimes wonder whether we all are becoming too reliant on  these new machines and expect too much of them especially those costing £1000 + and

as igglepiggle has said you still whatever you use got to put the coil over a target !

[zorro]

agree with you guys totally, my sovereign xs2a works fine for me. just because you've paid £1000 for a detector doesnt mean you find more.
years ago i was quite heavily involved in one of the earliest metal detecting web sites, sponsored to a large degree by a metal detecting  magazine.
wrote articles on such things as re-chargeable batteries, performance on multi frequency machines as opposed to single frequency etc.
Anyway i had suggested that a test bed by layed down, observed by representitives of all major manufacturers, allowed to settle, then tested by independent users to truely test the claims of some of the machines that were going about at the time.
I had asked if members of the site thought it would be a good idea. the response was huge! I also thought it would be a good idea for representitives from the main manufacturers to come along and "show us " how to get the best out of our machines.
a message was duely sent to me saying that  manufacturers had no intention of a "head to head" and to drop the idea!
Taught me a lesson on believeing claims made by manufacturers.
UK brian once told me "Wanna know how good a detector is ? check the second hand for sale columns "
If there are a load of "new" models going for sale they cant be all that good.
and believe me Brian is the most knowledgeable person there is when it comes to metal detectors....might have something to do with him being a professional detectorist for decades.
There is NOTHING he doesn't know about any model or make.(try him out).

[nfl]

ivehad my se for 2 years now ,and as this is my third machine i feel i am stickin with this 1,. even sites that i have been doing for ages are still bringing up good finds and to be honest i dont think a new machine will do any better,,more finds will come out of the ground when my fields get reploughed later this yearso i would rather pay the patience game and wait rather than paying 1500 for something that will only find the same stuff anyway........besides when minelab bring out the new jcb range{yellow only}it would be to big to carry and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of most guys price range.