Too much publicity ??

[dragonsbreath(Paul)]

Just as an addition to the thread i because of work and other committments find it

very easy to record any significant finds on the UKDFD and very simple too...I for one

am all for recording items but find it easier to do so on UKDFD.

But i will always support what PAS does as i believe they are the backbone of keeping

our hobby alive.

I just have some trouble understanding their recording system...prob just me being a bit

dense lol

I have most certainly "declared" as required when appropriate and will continue to do so

I have enjoyed this hobby for over 40 years and am convinced that sharing our countries

heritage knowledge and recording items is the correct thing to do...PaulB.

[gafflad]

 finally, in the local PAS report for our county, it reported that only 32 detectorists recorded finds with the scheme, yet we know of well over 700 detectorists attended clubs throughout  the year! [make of that statistic what you will!!]

 well there you go it just tells you a few people out and about already are not playing the game
 
 i think yes lets get back to the class room and permits are the way .
 
 there is good and bad in all walks of life . but a little bit of greed comes in part the way.

[altinkum]

and who is expected to pay for these courses or evening classes.what if this new detectorist want's to take up the hobby just to have a few hour's alone at the weekend away from his wife and young kid's but does'nt have the money to attend one of these evening classes does that mean he cant detect until he is awarded some micky mouse certificate. most people on here were newbie's once and it does'nt seem to have spoilt your fun and enjoyment of the hobby as you've learnt thing's alone the way so why do people want to impose restrictions on people wanting to get into the hobby. and my view on permit's is you can stick them where the sun dont shine

[coleggwent(phil)]

yes ok gafflad point taken  but what your not saying is out of them 700 not all of them find the stuff to record if we all found it whats the point of detecting it would be to easy were you got your sats from i dont know  if you got the portable antiquities scheme booklet (did i say that right  ) witch every responsible detectorist got and should have  it says that 97% out of 100 reported treasure cases 23% not reported as far as they know and only 80 cases were investigated on ebay .92.3% of finds are made and recorded by detectorists in the uk thats a fact were are you getting your info from beats me 

[gafflad]

if you read up i didt get the sats i was going on what was said read up

[coleggwent(phil)]

well who ever you got it of dont know shit from clay thats a fact 

[gafflad]

 well if you dont want classes and permits then stop biching about new people coming into the hobby
 

[coleggwent(phil)]

i dont bitch mate i try to get guys to start the more the merryer its good for the hobby  most of them start and just as start they stop cos they know they are not going to get rich as they think 

[gafflad]

 yes i say the same everyone has the right to detect and you cannot say all new people into the hobby are bad not when there is meany aready doing it the wrong way .
 you only got go to a rally and see how meany hole are left open for one if they cannot fill them on a rally i wounder what they are like on there own ground  lord help we need it .

[Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club]

yes thats my way of thinking getting them into clubs ect.

 only thing is past times i have joined clubs the welcome was nill .
 i will not say what clubs but i find when i first started the clubs where great people talked to you but
 i tyred to join 5 clubs in the past 10years  and it felt like i was a man with two heads or guilty of something i just never went back .

 i think the word is CLICKY .
 i think new people to the hobby after going to one of the clubs meets would not bother again and go there own way be it good or be it bad.
 please don't get me wrong i don't think all the clubs are like this i bet there are some great ones but i am still looking for it .
 the last one i went to the only word said to me was £1 please and near the end would you like to join its £12 or at the next meeting. i felt i was on show all night .
i think shops should point people in the right way by giving the address of the clubs and once a new person comes its up to the club to make them welcome and that way help them into the hobby the right way of doing things.

Gaff, i was new to the hobby February this year, after communicating with RJM via PM on the Minelab owners forum, I was invited to the Cardiff Scan Club, far from being made to feel alienated, i was given a warm and friendly welcome, so much so my whole family have joined the club and my new hobby and really enjoy going to the meetings and socialising, i have since gone on to join the RARE club also, after being made to feel very "AT HOME" on one of their coach trips that the scan club were invited to.

My experience certainly doesent tie in with yours.
Maybe some people just mix better than others and find it easier to socialise with strangers, these strangers often go on to become new friends.
I can honestly say this year, via detecting i have made new friendships that i know will last for years

Salty

[seeker]

back to the Topic that is Too much publicity ??

i think now were online it cant be helped . anyone Hearing about detecting in wales only has to type metal detecting and wales in to google and here we all are.all our best finds making it look like were rolling in treasure   if only .
on the subject of treasure and publicity ive never been that happy with our most popular magazines name treasure hunter   not the best image or thought out name  
its a delicate balance if it to few publicity we not heard or understood and easy to sweep away , to much means more of it will be bad by averages so tricky it is and out of our hands other than doing nothing that can bring bad publicity . simple    

[gafflad]

 there is some good clubs out there like i said its nothing to do with mixing it fact this has been brought up lots of time about clubs not beeing welcoming .
other people not just me have had this problem in the past.
 

[coleggwent(phil)]

you would be made more than welcome at the scan club mate thats for sure or the gwent club or rare come along and see 

[detectordave]

Why dont the FID or NCMD stand up for the detectorist.I had my FID book today and there is a write up about the staffordshire hoard in which it states that FID were asked by the media for comments did anyone here them? i didn't. Don't know if the NCMD said anything but both of these bodies are supposed to represent us and look after our intrests but every time they just go very quiet.

There is also a very good write up on AL THE PASTFINDER,well done AL

[coleggwent(phil)]

thats a very good point indeed dave  thanks for puting that to us