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« on: September 03, 2020, 07:12:44 PM »

Hi All, does anyone have a detailed book on Lizzy issues? Apart from Spink? All I want to know is, how many different listings are there for the shilling first issue? Spink has two listings. I am looking to see the different types of reverse legends. Thanks, Jon.
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2020, 08:42:46 PM »

You could look at any edition of North - English Hammered Coinage - aside from that I'm sure there are some BNJ or RNS volumes that would cover things.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2020, 10:42:24 AM »

Hi Probono,

Thanks for the reply.

I forgot I had a North book, but that is even more brief than Spink.

I have attached some pics of Lizzy Shillings First Issue.

If you look between 9 and 12 o'clock on the reverse, where it reads MMEV, you will see there are clear differences -  NOTE dots and colons,

Shilling 1 - "M·MEV:" (dot and colon)
Shilling 2 - "M·MEVM" (dot only and last letter M)
Shilling 3 - "M:MEVM" (colon only and last letter M)
Shilling 4 - "M·MEVM·" (dot and last letter M and dot)

I bet if I looked a bit more there could be more variants?

Jon



* Shilling 1.jpg (320.59 KB, 2079x1000 - viewed 178 times.)

* Shilling 2.jpg (260.61 KB, 609x611 - viewed 201 times.)

* Shilling 3.jpg (97.94 KB, 980x500 - viewed 525 times.)

* Shilling 4 (My shilling).jpg (388.06 KB, 1692x1641 - viewed 512 times.)
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2020, 05:26:51 PM »

An interesting question, but seems to be something that has been given little consideration.

A search of images online comes up with all these:

M.MEVM
M.MEV.
.MEVM
M:MEVM
M:MEV.
EM.MEV.
M:MEV:
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2020, 11:08:36 PM »

I've no doubt that someone has done some research on these - although tbh it is only when you get to Charles I coins that you get the die variants - at least mentioned.

For the colon types, they are really a contraction mark, with a dot below.

I've also had a look again at my coin books - Schneider is all gold, Stewartby - at least the one I have, finishes in 1551 (but isn't really as detailed as you need), and Brooker is only Charles.

Can't find anything obvious online - sounds like a bit of an MA project....
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