Hammered

[N8]

2nd attempt

Found this in vale of glam recently. Think its a hammered but hard to see any detail. Tried drawing what i can see. Any help

Also thinking of cleaning it but not sure whats best, any opinions welcome

[N8]

Also found this token? Different site though

[N8]

And finally (for now)

Is this a lead musket ball?

[probono]

Well from what you have shown it's probably a Lizzie - the reverse legend is often 'I have made God my helper' - so the legend ends in 'Meum'

[Val Beechey]

Welcome to DW N8
Pic 2 is almost certainly a key escutcheon, not a token.
Pic 3 is a musket ball.

As for cleaning. 1st off,  just a rub between fingers under the tap to remove top dirt. The coin is silver, so, small piece of baking foil, spit on it, place coin on top and cover. Squeeze foil tight between finger and thumb to exclude any air and leave for a few minuets. Unwrap carefully and rinse, may have to repeat a few times but be careful not to overdo it as it will turn the coin black. Be ready for the rotten egg smell when you undue the foil.
All finds can be swilled in a bowl of warm, soapy water to remove top dirt. An old, soft toothbrush is useful. Be careful with old copper coins though. More often than not the legend is only still there because of the green patina which comes off easily.
It’s always useful to show both side of a coin if you can.
Thanks for posting, looking forward to seeing more.

[N8]

Ahh, many thanks for the reply probono. The reverse side is unreadable so i was really struggling with identification.

Thanks for the cleaning tip Val I'll give it a go and post the result

[nobby]

The "Hammered coin" looks to be made from copper ? If so I d plum for a Jetton

[N8]

Thanks for the replies guys

I've had a look at some 'lizzies'and jetons but both dont really match my find. Theres definately a double band in the 'shield' and the little fluers look like there may be 3 of them in the between the bands.
As i said i'm tempted to try cleaning but how do you know what material the coin is before trying a clean, never cleaned anything other than a quick rinse and soft brush. Bit weary of damaging it 😓

[Val Beechey]

As already advised, the baking foil is the standard test. A short time won’t damage it and if it stinks, it’s silver.

[Resurgam]

                       Spot on cleaning advice from Val! If the coin 'is' silver, It may get rather warm as you hold it between your thumb and finger but not warm enough to burn you.

                                Chris

[Dale]

I'd say it's a copper 17th century farthing token there's so many different types, and lots with the double boarded shield like your diagram.. It's also to far gone to be worried about cleaning, it sounds harsh but its true

[N8]

Tried a clean but as mentioned too far gone 😯
But this one cleaned up nice, 2 fields over, same area, quite shallow

[N8]

Other side

[N8]

Think its an Edward 1-3? Not sure which one as hard to figure out the difference

[Chainsaw Bampy]

nice find n8