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Author Topic: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?  (Read 603 times)
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« on: February 20, 2018, 08:50:29 AM »

                                   I recovered this little item from about four inches deep in sand, grit, and shingle. I initially thought it to be what was left of a bottle top. It is wafer thin, about the size of an old penny, totally blank on one side, but the other side appears to have a seated figure with a shield (or wheel) resting close to the left knee. It has the look, feel, and sound of lead but I will do an sg on it today and also do some accurate measurements..

                                  Perhaps it's that old artist nature playing tricks with a bit of beach scrap?


                                            All help in putting an id on this item will be greatly appreciated.

                          Chris Smiley.



                                


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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2018, 08:55:53 AM »

Looks like the reverse of a Georgian half penny (depending on size).
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2018, 10:54:20 AM »

                     The item is in deed very similar in diamiter to a George III halfpenny but the scale of the figure appears to be totally different.
It is not made from copper, or bronze, but a white metal that is totally unresponsive to the old spit and aluminium foil test. Initially I would say that it
is made of lead but haven't yet done a sg test on it.



 


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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 01:25:29 PM »

It's not a tin halfpenny?
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 07:54:26 PM »

                                I didn't even realise that there was such a thing as a tin halfpenny but then again I didn't know that some coins were actually minted in pewter. Despite Googling around and surfing the net I am unable to find a Britannia to match the figure on this item. The shield (if it is a shield) rests just in front of the left knee and not at the left elbow or buttok.

                               I keep thinking that I can possibly see some letters on the "shield" but will need to take a better photograph to check that out.

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2018, 10:18:36 PM »

Well,
          I eventually got round to doing an sg on the item and it came out as 7.0.  Allowing for scale and technique discrepancies I recon the closest and most likely metal would be tin or zinc. If tin, what sort of date could be put to it?



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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 10:36:54 PM »

Chris, are you sure itís not a button? The shape around the edge seems to be scalloped. Trick of the camera or real?
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2018, 10:56:20 PM »

You are right Val; it is not a trick of the camera but I had thought that the slight scalloping was perhaps due to the way that time and tides had worn it.
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