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« on: February 11, 2017, 07:03:43 PM »
Can someone help Id this please

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 10:08:05 PM »
Richard I or John short cross penny of Rhuddlan. The coins of this mint were struck from local dies and do not conform to the classes of the main short cross series.

Moneyer is Tomas and the reverse reads TOMAS ON RVLA.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 10:20:51 PM »
I don't know if others can see it, but it appears to have an engraver's error - the obverse reads 'HNERI'....
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 10:28:16 PM »
Quote from: probono on February 11, 2017, 10:20:51 PM
I don't know if others can see it, but it appears to have an engraver's error - the obverse reads 'HNERI'....
Yeah I spotted that aswel is that unusual
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 10:29:01 PM »
Quote from: Chris1 on February 11, 2017, 07:03:43 PM
Can someone help Id this please
thanks doc
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 10:30:08 PM »
Rhuddlan coins often have unusual spellings. A similar one here:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=45210&title=richard-i-or-john-short-cross-penny&cat=154
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 10:34:24 PM »
Quote from: Chris1 on February 11, 2017, 07:03:43 PM
Can someone help Id this please
thanks for your help Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 11:52:43 AM »
Nice👍
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 10:29:58 AM »
great coin....I live near Rhuddlan so it might be one my great great great great granddad dropped lol...
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2017, 06:13:34 PM »
Myke, I reckon you need a few more 'greats' there  Wink

Year 1200 = roughly 23rd great-grandparents:

http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/OnE/NumberAncestors.html
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