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« on: October 12, 2015, 09:54:14 AM »

You don't need to be in this hobby for too long before you start to hear the horror stories of nighthawks and the damage they cause not only to scheduled sites but to the hobby itself as in my view if there is a danger of the hobby being banned in the UK then it comes from within our own ranks.
I suspect that many like myself cringe every few years when the inevitable "Nighthawk" story is wheeled out and then adopted by certain quarters to demonstrate the danger posed by metal detecting in general and I'm slightly embarrassed to say that after nearly 40 years of reading these cases they have become a little like "water off a ducks back" as they always seem to be in locations miles away so a "nothing to do with me" attitude has taken hold and I believe many others have the same view............
Today though the subject has been brought to my doorstep with a collaboration between Bristol Uni and the BBC, tonight's "Inside West" program showing footage from protected sites in Gloucestershire (OK big doorstep lol) captured at night and showing nighthawks at work.
I'm not sure if they name names or even manage to identify the culprits but I'm sure that myself or other member may have some ideas on who they are after seeing the footage.
Cringe time is 19:30h tonight BBC1 but if you miss it or can't get BBC West then you can view it after transmission on the BBC iPlayer.

http://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2015/october/heritage-crime-uncovered.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 09:55:19 AM »

LOL Jerry beat me to it Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 01:58:11 PM »

LOL Jerry beat me to it Cheesy

It'll certainly be worth a watch.

It would be nice for some follow-up with both the crims and maybe what responsibly detectorists are like (aside from the 'Detectorists' Sitcom).
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 03:24:03 PM »

If they are filming night hawkers surely they call the police as they do so, to catch them.

Otherwise its just sensational telly ! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 03:31:50 PM »

As it says on the Bristol Uni link "The investigation placed motion-sensor infra-red cameras" so nobody about to call the police....
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 03:44:09 PM »

That's shocking chef really shocking I too think the hobby will be outlawed soon due to greedy people.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 04:55:26 PM »

Personally, the whole concept of metal detecting being banned would be a complete disaster,as it would make no difference to the "rogue scum" who perpetrate such foul doings.
Perhaps it is time for the law to change and that strict licencing and control  of detectors brought in,alas I know it would be impossible for such a scheme to work!!!however,perhaps those of us who know of such persons perpetrating these crimes,or even as much as to have a suspicion of persons committing such acts should give their names to the rightful authorities,and that they come down with a custodial sentence should they be found guilty.
Well its either that or we lose our much loved hobby of metal detecting.
Well,it's OUR hobby,and its up to US to help stamp out this "night hawking" scourge.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 04:56:47 PM »

I think its worth pointing out that these are people going equipped with metal detectors to engage in an  illegal activity.

Which is totally different from those who participate in the hobby, through legitimate arrangements with landowners.

There is a precedent of legal action being taken against those who pursue the illegal route

http://www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2013/jan/12/metal-detecting-prosecution-hailed-as-a-landmark-case/



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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 06:08:48 PM »

I'm afraid Alan that nighthawks are only your average detectorist with permission by day, thankfully as the above link says new sentencing rules are now in place, the sentences in the case you posted were in my view at best pathetic, which may help, but I doubt it Cry
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 06:42:13 PM »

That was a disappointment I didn't recognise any of them Angry
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2015, 06:45:53 PM »

Thank God the FLO was there to stick up for us.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2015, 06:49:33 PM »

Having just watched the programme someone must know who they are with those pictures, if anyone does know them then do our hobby a favour and inform the police, there must be detectorists out there who knows someone who is night hawking, now is the time to let people know who they are so we can protect our great hobby before it's too late. and well done to Kurt Adams our local Flo.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2015, 06:51:37 PM »

Well said Geoff, There was a clue there, didn't someone mention the name "Vlad"
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2015, 07:00:20 PM »

Can someone post the iplayer link please, as and when it appears

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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2015, 07:03:05 PM »

It will probably take about an hour or so before this new episode is on there Wink
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06h881h/inside-out-west-12102015
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