Roman Brooch last night

[sharkey]

amazing brooch Will hope to see it in the flesh tomorrow :-)

sharkey

[hotmill]

amazing brooch Will hope to see it in the flesh tomorrow :-)

sharkey

We'll both be there 

[Chef Geoff]

Well I hate to be beaten on an id for brooches but boy was this one close and to be honest I can't guarantee the the following is anywhere near right but here goes lol......

I'm sticking with a Germanic influence as the closest I can get, though not exact, is what is known as a Bojovic type fibula which comes from Dacia (Romania) which at the time wasn't part of the Roman Empire. Now given it's location it's unlikely to have been direct trade, ie a trader coming to Briton to sell his goods, so a closer connection to Dacia is needed and although 3 of the 4 invasion legions had recent contact with the German provinces I can't believe that the brooch would have lasted in fashion from 43AD through to the time when Chester/North Wales had the Support staff and usual camp followers for this to be lost by them but the Legio II Adiutrix came to Britain in 71AD initially to Lincoln but by 73AD they were under the control of Agricola and were part of the main force in conquering the Ordovices and Anglesey, this Legion had come direct from action on the Dutch German border and while this is still a long way from Dacia (you wouldn't want to walk it ) trade routes did exist.

Now all of that maybe total BS and it could've been knocked up by an off duty legionary during his lunch break in a garage in Rhyle but it works for me

[roaljodaka]

interesting read chef 

[Val Beechey]

We really wanted to know all that Geoff      In other words, it's a nice unusual find not previously recorded for the area.   Oh and by the way,  Please make sure it's is recorded.  (It's Roman so they will be very interested)

Wouldn't mind finding one myself. Great find.

[hotmill]

Well I hate to be beaten on an id for brooches but boy was this one close and to be honest I can't guarantee the the following is anywhere near right but here goes lol......

I'm sticking with a Germanic influence as the closest I can get, though not exact, is what is known as a Bojovic type fibula which comes from Dacia (Romania) which at the time wasn't part of the Roman Empire. Now given it's location it's unlikely to have been direct trade, ie a trader coming to Briton to sell his goods, so a closer connection to Dacia is needed and although 3 of the 4 invasion legions had recent contact with the German provinces I can't believe that the brooch would have lasted in fashion from 43AD through to the time when Chester/North Wales had the Support staff and usual camp followers for this to be lost by them but the Legio II Adiutrix came to Britain in 71AD initially to Lincoln but by 73AD they were under the control of Agricola and were part of the main force in conquering the Ordovices and Anglesey, this Legion had come direct from action on the Dutch German border and while this is still a long way from Dacia (you wouldn't want to walk it ) trade routes did exist.

Now all of that maybe total BS and it could've been knocked up by an off duty legionary during his lunch break in a garage in Rhyle but it works for me

That's fantastic Chef! Thanks very much, very interesting. Yes Val I fully intended to record it thanks. Wonder how much it's worth on E Bay? 

[digitup]

will that's a stonker any pics of it cleaned up at all.chef that was a interesting write up .nice read

[hotmill]

I'm getting the Brillo pads and wire brush on it later so I'll post a pic up when it's all nice and shiny again.   No I'm leaving it as it is for now.

[digitup]

Lol i didnt mean it like that.water only

[hotmill]

Lol i didnt mean it like that.water only

I know, just given it a wash that's all really.

[digitup]

Lol i didnt mean it like that.water only

I know, just given it a wash that's all really.

it looks as though theres still enamel on it roger said it v nice

[celticspikey]

Absolute cracking early brooch, I'm sure with carefull cleaning and a bit of protection it will look even more stunning  that said some would say it looks even better in as found condition, I'm sure it does for you hotmail well done. I would be supprised if Geoff is not on the money with ID so well done to him as well.