Sunday morning

[Resurgam]

                         Took the new Safari for a jaunt on the sand Sunday morning but couldn't manage any treasure. The best I could do was a 1919 penny, a 1p decimal, a pound coin, a load of WWII scrap, and a child's sterling silver ring. Oh; and one lead fishing weight!  

                         Slowly getting used to the Safari, but I can't help wondering if it is going to punch as deep as the CS4PI.  

[Val Beechey]

Hi Chris,  Well done on your finds on Sunday. Not bad at all.
 
As far as 'punching as deep as the CS4PI'  then no, no, and no.  It's a full band frequency machine which is excellent at differentiating metals but will not be anywhere as deep as the PI.  Obviously I don't speak from personal experience but I know from the depth I dig compared to what I read.  I think Chef Geoff will agree.

But I do remember you saying you were fed up digging deep holes for rubbish.

Val

[Resurgam]

Good morning Val 

                                   thanks for your swift reply. My regular beach is so full of WWII leftovers, years of discarded metal scraps, and modern tourist's rubbish, that the CS4PI becomes a nightmare without the discrimination that other machines have and ( as you know ) the Euroace has fits if you show it wet sand. I am well impressed with the Safari on the beach but will be keeping the Euroace as a backup machine.

                                  I had been thinking of selling on the CS4PI, but then began to wonder if it's worth keeping just for clean beach areas? Using the Safari on Sunday, I dug very little iron whilst using coin mode with 40 blocked out. There was, of course, the odd piece of rusty iron pretending to be a good target! 

[Val Beechey]

Nice thing about the Safari, Chris, is that you can increase the Sensitivity and squeeze a bit more depth and keep ground balance. Plus you can at least recognise brass when you get it  at least it's worth something.
I still have to discover if I can achieve the same with the Deus. At the moment I see it as a step backwards. I seem to have got the beach sorted but not sure if I've lost depth with the change of settings. Fields, at the present, are a pain. It's like running the Safari in all metal and being told that every chunk of old iron is a gold hoard as it registers as conductive with a high tone.
Still I s'pose I'll eventually get used to it. I remember hating the Safari for months. Main attraction of the Deus is the weight. I can't fault that. 
If I had your choice I'd sell the Euroace. You never know where you might want to take a PI machine and be glad of it.

Val

[Resurgam]

                                    Interesting that you should say that about the Deus Val; I was feeling pretty much the same about the Safari. Being honest; I had similar problems when I first started using the Euroace but soon learned to love it. I suppose that it is all about learning curves and practice. I can get away with the safari on maximum sensitivity whilst detecting the beach but the darned thing takes a dickyfit if I try the same settings on pasture. I can't move a foot without it warbling and wurbling; so run it about 16 sensitivity and try to slow down my swing and advance. As with the Euroace; I will get there eventually.

Me thinks that I will be keeping both the CS4PI and the Euroace for the time being. I would hate to be without a detector if the Safari is out of action, and I think the CS4PI will come into it's own on the low tide line and on cleaner beaches. I plan on doing some beach testing of the Safari v the CS4PI and seeing which actually detects deepest.

[Chef Geoff]

A Pi will always find small items deeper as they aren't camouflaged by mineralisation like they are to a VLF machine however as you start getting up around the size of a pre decimal penny then things start evening out

[marknewbury1]

I val keep using the xp on the pasturefields iron 4+5+6 +789+13 down is loud sound a coin the same 4 to 10 is  a high quit signal

[Richie sixpence]

Nice finds Chris, nice to see you are still getting to the beach 

[Resurgam]

Hi Richie,
                it tends to be hit and miss if I'm going to get down to the beach. A lot depends on the weather, the tides, and the wife's mood at the time of contemplating a day's beach detecting! It presently looks as though I will be down there tomorrow. I will walk through to presthaven via the path and work my way back to the lighthouse detecting the high tide line as I go.

                You are more than welcome to join me. I will be starting early though! 

[Jonnietaz]

From my experience, the safari is deeper then the 4pi, but again that's my experience, my beaches.
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[Resurgam]

                                Well, me, I don't know! What I can say is this.......I took R2D2 down to the beach again this morning and ran it over some areas that I have worked with both my EuroAce and my C-Scope CS4PI. I got loads of copper projectiles and pieces of copper shrapnel. I also got £3.54p in decimal coins, a tatty cheap ring, a doggy tag, and what looks like a heart shaped gold pendant.

                                I am presently cleaning the Pendant / locket in an ultrasound bath but am beginning to doubt that it is made of gold; it has some small areas that look a bit like copper verdigris and it is caked in gritty sand.