Right or Wrong?

[Dale]

I remember the fakes doing the rounds in the late 70's early 80's there used to be a coin and stamp shop on Cotham Hill in Bristol that had a little display of fakes under their glass counter but this was at a time that the Seaby catalogue had some listed at £30k and a few just marked as "unique" and at a time when dodgy dealing in metal detecting finds was more rife quite a few probably passed into private collections.
I think that until Ebay and the like bring in a ruling that all antiquities have to have either a PAS record sheet or a letter of authenticity from an "expert" (auctioneer etc) then people are going to try pass these copies as the real thing.

It sounds like there's a few dodge characters in Bristol

I agree Geoff something needs to be done about it, its worth taking a Google its surprising how many fakes there are, some are made not to trick people like the WRL but it still does, but some are made for fooling and money gain..... I think hammered coins your pretty safe buying on eBay but Roman silver and Greek I wouldn't touch      

[probono]

There was a John penny on ebay a few weeks ago, which was a WRL coin with the WRL rubbed out - it made £111 - despite me telling the seller it wasn't genuine.........

[Chef Geoff]

Something that I've often wondered is just how many fakes are out there with the right metal, right amount of wear and just the right amount of imperfection to ever be found out, the answer would probably be frightening

[Mike]

with the quality of machinery available today , the skills and just greed anything can be copied , look what the Chinese do with fake morgan dollars etc , and what about the white £5 notes the Nazi's produced during the war years  scary stuff indeed

[Dale]

Something that I've often wondered is just how many fakes are out there with the right metal, right amount of wear and just the right amount of imperfection to ever be found out, the answer would probably be frightening

Geoff look at pic two of the Bodvoc coin the gold looks the right colour for a Dobunni stater (pink ish) its thought the gold was mined from the Welsh hills that's why the coins got a rose gold colour to them due to the above average copper content, it may have more to do with the lighting.

Look at these 3 Durotriges staters all being sold by Saxbey coins, you can see casting bubbles in the fields, there all the same moulds, got same striking crack there just polished and photographed in a different ways, there going for £120+ all fakes and very easy to spot    

[bristolminelab]

What is sickening with some of these dealers is they know what they are selling is a forgery i had one of my customers question a silver peace dollar i was selling, i removed it straight away and grave it close scrutiny and research before putting it back on sale , lucky enough it was genuine 

[Dale]

What is sickening with some of these dealers is they know what they are selling is a forgery i had one of my customers question a silver peace dollar i was selling, i removed it straight away and grave it close scrutiny and research before putting it back on sale , lucky enough it was genuine 

I agree its wrong

The thing is BM the coins above are some of the cheaper item he sales some of the fakes hits high 100's to 1000's

[bristolminelab]

What is sickening with some of these dealers is they know what they are selling is a forgery i had one of my customers question a silver peace dollar i was selling, i removed it straight away and grave it close scrutiny and research before putting it back on sale , lucky enough it was genuine 

I agree its wrong

The thing is BM the coins above are some of the cheaper item he sales some of the fakes hits high 100's to 1000's

the question that should be asked is how he acquire such coins does he have a source to these  dodgy coins

[bristolminelab]

Did a bit of research online about him this guy should be behind bars!!!!!!

[Dale]

Take a look at this site, just chose your category........ I hope the link works

www.forgerynetwork.com

[bristolminelab]

what a nightmare , what is real and what is fake that is being offered for sale the only way to know for sure is to dig it up

[david995]

how does it work with that internet company that will make any coin you want ?  do they mark them some how so they are supposed to be seen as copys ?

[Resurgam]

                        Jeez, you can't trust anyone these days; counterfeit pound coins and counterfeit Celtic coins! I'm glad I'm not in the market for Celtics; I think I'll wait and find my own for free.   Hopefully.  

[Dale]

The Bodvoc sold for £670 so others had the same thoughts about its authenticity, Celticspikey said he got £2500 for his 6 years ago.

[celticspikey]

Far to cheap Dale as you know, I guess the buyer will be returning it when he try's to get it authenticated, or sell it on  for some other poor chump, to take a hit. Just for interest I will post a picture of mine tomorrow for interest.