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« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2014, 11:10:21 PM »

Coin rubbing is more of a collectors obsession when they're in that condition it was dropping them all in the same bag was what got me, I'm amazed they didn't block lift it Huh

Agree I thought the same, the way it was excavated was very unprofessional.

They can learn so much about how it was deposited by block lifting - it was exciting to see them being lifted - I just hope none were broken on the way to storage...and just think of the information that has been lost.
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« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2014, 11:20:10 PM »

Coin rubbing is more of a collectors obsession when they're in that condition it was dropping them all in the same bag was what got me, I'm amazed they didn't block lift it Huh

Agree I thought the same, the way it was excavated was very unprofessional.

They can learn so much about how it was deposited by block lifting - it was exciting to see them being lifted - I just hope none were broken on the way to storage...and just think of the information that has been lost.

Is block lifting more of a bronze fussed together hoard method? extracting loss silver may be different, but did I read somewhere it was in a lead bucket, I haven't seen and photos of that, they must of left it behind Cheesy
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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2014, 12:33:24 AM »

Well - unless the bags of coins they have lifted out were in sequence and labelled as such, they have lost any information pertaining to how the hoard was deposited - and to be honest in the bags as they are, they don't have any information of whether the coins were parcelled up into smaller bags in the lead box / bucket / sheet of lead covering them - it certainly looked as if they were in some kind of shape in some of the pictures - but they didn't seem to be in a square shape which would have indicated something like a wooden box
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« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2014, 09:53:46 AM »

Well - unless the bags of coins they have lifted out were in sequence and labelled as such, they have lost any information pertaining to how the hoard was deposited - and to be honest in the bags as they are, they don't have any information of whether the coins were parcelled up into smaller bags in the lead box / bucket / sheet of lead covering them - it certainly looked as if they were in some kind of shape in some of the pictures - but they didn't seem to be in a square shape which would have indicated something like a wooden box
I agree it does seem a shame that the hoard was not lifted out in one.
Is there a set of rules or procedures that FLO should follow or can they do want that feel fit?
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« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2014, 12:18:41 PM »

I would think the reason they didn't block lift was that the extent of the hoard wasn't imagined to be as big the hole itself is far too narrow to excavate the hoard "properly", Mellonhead told me that they started out bagging layer by layer but as the light was failing it became obvious that they had to think more of getting it to safety.
Dale block lifting is used either for items that are very fragile and are being held together by the surrounding soil or for anything that you want to study "as is" in more controlled conditions.
If the coins are as reported just from Ethelred and Cnut then you're only looking at a 57 year period and so the chronology of how the hoard was laid down isn't quite as great but I'm quite sure that the rally site will be having a good investigation now by the local county archaeologist as having seen its location I feel pretty confident that the hoard was buried below the floor of a manorial complex with attached village. Wink
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« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2014, 05:26:24 PM »

 Wink thanks chef
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« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2014, 11:51:10 PM »

I see cheers for the info Wink
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« Reply #52 on: December 31, 2014, 11:25:37 PM »

Better pics and report now up on WW site.......Not sure whether to go WOW! and drool or just be sick Grin

http://www.weekendwanderersdetecting.com/INTRODUCTION/Calendar_of_Events/SAXON_HOARD_/saxon_hoard_.html
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« Reply #53 on: December 31, 2014, 11:45:20 PM »

As you say geoff  well actually what can you say !! but WOW
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« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2014, 11:49:43 PM »

Thanks for the link.

Even my missus has shown some interest in that hoard. She wasn't bothered about mine..........!
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« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2014, 11:49:58 PM »

Yes - serious drooling here  Grin
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« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2015, 09:51:28 AM »

Yes - serious drooling here  Grin
Any chance of a id on the cleaned coins Doc?
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« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2015, 01:43:22 PM »

WOW  WOW  WOW
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« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2015, 05:39:37 PM »

Truly an awesome hoard, worth a fortune monetary wise and for future research  Wink from the looks of the field there's some interesting earthworks going on as well, settlement of sorts, no doubt all will be revealed in time. The only problem I foresee is bettering the find in 2015  Grin Grin
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« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2015, 07:04:02 PM »

Yes - serious drooling here  Grin
Any chance of a id on the cleaned coins Doc?

Just quickly, they all seem to be Aethelred II apart from the bottom right which is Cnut. I'm sure there will be an interesting reason why they were buried and not recovered - will have to wait to see if any later coins are included (i.e Harthacnut, Harold I etc) to tie it down to events.
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