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« on: July 12, 2014, 07:43:35 AM »
Found last nite on the beach not sure on wot it is would be greatful if u guys could help  Grin

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 08:25:07 AM »

Silver goes some funny colours off the beach,give it a gentle clean.Certainly looks like a hammy.Was it pff Amroth.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 08:42:06 AM »
That's an intriguing find Jimi Huh The reverse show the arms of Castile and Leon so it points to Spain Huh
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 08:56:42 AM »
It was found on a beach Geoff so possible washed up from a ship wreck?
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 09:10:09 AM »
Quote from: Jimi nugget on July 12, 2014, 07:43:35 AM
Found last nite on the beach not sure on wot it is would be greatful if u guys could help  Grin
Aarrgh, me reckon it be washed up by a shipwreck jim lad Shocked shiver me timbers and captain Geoff be probably right me thinks. Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 11:04:42 AM »
I'm not 100% but quietly confident that it's a coin of Henry IV of Castile (1454-74) and is  version of the one on the link Wink For my money that makes it more interesting than a Saxon and certainly a rarer find.

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/opac/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=108541&_function_=xslt&_limit_=25
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 11:35:34 AM »
Forget what I put before it's even better it's a billon "Real de vellón" of Henry II of Castile and Leon (1368-79)
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http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/opac/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=108309&_function_=xslt&_limit_=25#1
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2014, 11:44:55 AM »
Are they a common find Geoff and wot country is it from
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 12:07:53 PM »
No certainly not common Jimi at least not here in the UK, as said Henry was king of Castile and Leon which was a Kingdom in what is now part of North West Spain. Where the interest for me lies is the fact this coin isn't dated to any particular year and if we use a bit of romantic licence then the history of the coin becomes interesting,
Henry II was proclaimed king in 1366 after ousting his brother Peter I (Pedro the cruel.....great name) who was his brother but in the very next year he was temporarily kicked off the throne by Peter with great help from an English Army under Edward the Black Prince and John of Gaunt at the Battle of Najero at which it states that the Castilian cavalry were cut down by the "English" longbow.
Now this is the same army (time wise)bthat defeated the French at Crecy and we know that a large percentage of the bowmen were in fact Welsh and not English, so could this coin be the last evidence of a Welshman's part in the battle, brought back as either war booty or a memento?
Great find Wink
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2014, 12:13:55 PM »
I take it that this one goes in the cherish pot thanks Geoff  great info thank u I will bring it to the rally for u to av a look Grin
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2014, 01:17:17 PM »
Oh definitely one for the very cherished Pot and please please get it recorded as there are none at all on the PAS database and if it was part of someone's adventures 500 years ago we owe it to them to make it known Wink
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2014, 01:19:52 PM »
Defiantly mate will do c u at the rally
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2014, 01:35:42 PM »
Great find, very interesting Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2014, 01:44:24 PM »
nice jim  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2014, 01:46:05 PM »
Great find and great ID Geoff.

A very unusual coin!
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