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« on: April 19, 2014, 12:05:21 PM »

Any ideas on which King George, on this small stacking weight ?
Many thanks Ian


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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 03:08:01 PM »

King George III    Crowned GR  = George Royal

Crowned G = George 1st
Crowned G letter A and normally the sword of st paul = George II
Crowned WIV  william IV
Crowned GVI   King george VI
Crowned VR   victoria
Crowned C     Charles 1st or 2nd
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 03:13:18 PM »

Nice find well done  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 01:08:25 PM »

King George III    Crowned GR  = George Royal

Crowned G = George 1st
Crowned G letter A and normally the sword of st paul = George II
Crowned WIV  william IV
Crowned GVI   King george VI
Crowned VR   victoria
Crowned C     Charles 1st or 2nd


Excellent bit of info, many thanks Trojan  Cool Cool Cool
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 05:43:12 PM »

Ah if only it was that simple....no I'm afraid there is far more to it than that as the difference between the Georgian weights rely on the placement of the symbols, all the Georges just have a crowned G, the letter A is only on weights below 1oz and stands for Averdepois rather than Tower or Troy weight, the sword is the Guildhall mark which basically makes the weight guaranteed and the coffee pot is the founder or makers mark from London but there are others,
All these marks appear on weights from Elizabeth I right up to Victoria so to find which George you need to read it like a clock face
G at 12 O'clock with the sword at 3 O'clock and ewer at 6 = George 1
G at 9 O'clock with sword at 12 and ewer at 6 = George II
G at 3 O'clock with sword at 12 and ewer at 6 = George III or IV
This isn't a hard and fast rule as there doesn't seem to have been an immediate change with a new king
There are some GR weights (R is for Rex not Royal) but these tend to not have all the marks and were used outside of the major cities.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 06:17:29 PM »

Hmmmm, very informative thread.  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 07:44:16 PM »

Thats interesting Geoff, am I correct in thinking the ewer (coffee pot) and sword were still in use up to the 19thC.
And would only the official wieghts originating at the London Guilds have these counter marks, rather than provincial ones?
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 07:55:18 PM »

They were definitely still going during Victoria's reign and may have continued there are marks for Lincoln and there maybe others but 99% with marks seem to originate in London Wink
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 09:33:25 PM »

One I found earlier Charles (1 or 2) With Ewer and sword about 50mm Diameter


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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2014, 12:49:23 AM »

I'm thou roughly enjoying the info both Chef and Trojan are discussing over a few recent threads.  Great knowledge and understanding being revealed. 
     Thanks guys and keep them coming.. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2014, 06:42:44 AM »

Very nice find and very useful info.
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