Some new finds

[hotmill]

Very interesting Chris, there's some age to them for sure. Just wondering if they could be fittings from a chariot perhaps? Celtic/Saxon?

[Christoph1945]

Hi Wiil,
            when I first saw them, and even now, I am thinking brooch segments, broken bronze ring, and a strap end. Lacking experience in such things, I stand to be corrected; but am waiting for doc to cast his beady eye over them and give us his advice on id.

            Going back on Thursday, to dig deeper, and see what I can turn up. In the meantime I will try and take a pic that will have some comparison items, so you can get a better idea of sizes.

            As an aside; I am miffed that I will miss the DW North Wales dig in March, but wish all you guys the best of luck and every success on the day.   

[Val Beechey]

Hi Chris,    Now I see what you mean about 'not strait forward'   Can't see it would cause you any probs though as you are an innocent party.  Hope I'm right. Unfortunately they cannot be recorded as find sight is not known.

I s'pose you could go back to the car boot sale ground and see if the fella is there on a regular basis. Shame they don't give receipts.

The ring you mention looks like a broken Terret ring off a cart (or chariot) . The FLO or local Museum might be able to I.D the other bits for you.

Val

p.s. I'll hang onto my Safari for the time being but don't think me or it will last that long.

[Christoph1945]

Have faith Val, have faith,
                                          we may both just make the 120 years!   

[Val Beechey]

Stone o' Crows, I hate to think what I'd look like by then.  


Val

[CUT/HALF]

Some lovely brooches as well as the other great finds.

[Christoph1945]

OK, Folks,
                  here is a pic with some 10p pieces for size comparison.

[Meatslicer]

A,B,C,D,E,F,G are bits of late roman military fittings, sword hangers and brooches. H is a roman military belt buckle in pretty good condition.

Eric

[Chef Geoff]

Wow! I know it's not a legitimate find but hells bells well spotted Chris
Eric was close but a couple of hundred years out
A, D and F are "shield on tongue" buckle pins and date to the 6th century as do the rest,
G that you think is a ring I believe is the centerpiece of a cruciform brooch
B and E are also parts of brooches,
H for my money is an open work buckle plate and C some type of fitting.
My guess looking at that assemblage is that they have all come from a Saxon cemetery, as Val said you can't record them properly as you have no provenance on them.
If they weren't recorded when found then a great chunk of knowledge has been stolen away as they now mean nothing....sad

[HAMMERRHOID]

nice few finds there i bet someone can id them for you

[Chef Geoff]

Strange I thought I just did

[Christoph1945]

Thanks Geoff,
                        I returned to the car boot yesterday and talked with one of the stall holders and he confirmed that the items were detector finds and were Roman. I bought what was left of finds that interested me and thanked him. I still have a number of complications to overcome but will fill you in on all the details early next week.

[probono]

An interesting story - I'm interested in how it will develop.

[whosyouruncle]

They are still some nice pieces.

[Christoph1945]

                        Well today will be a testing time for developement of the ongoing story and by Monday I will be able to unfold the whole tale. I do hope that I will have access to a computer terminal where I may finish up!