Any id on a really battered hammered

[DEADLOCK]

This is my first hammered with my new machine it was bent in half so not muxh to go on. And then i made the mistake of letting radnor bandit have ago with it only for him to find a seal matrix with it. But it was his land also hammy number 20. Its 20mm in size

[Tafflaff (Rob)]

Its definitely hammered 

[DEADLOCK]

I think its beat the doc  . I thought a man of your calibre and statue of the community would of known what hammered it is tafflaff.   

[Dryland]

Yep it's definitely what Doc will say it is

[The Doc]

You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.

[Dale]

You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.

Ha ha I was going to put something the same.

Looking at the first pic at 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock there is a little legend and going by that id say Charles half groat

[Chef Geoff]

You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.

Ouch!!!!!!

[The Doc]

You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.

Ha ha I was going to put something the same.

Looking at the first pic at 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock there is a little legend and going by that id say Charles half groat

That wasn't a joke -  I was being serious, but may be totally wrong. I'll explain in a couple of minutes.

[DEADLOCK]

Seriously jeezzz

[The Doc]

Have a look at this coin on UKDFD and then look at the area I have circled on your coin.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36930&cat=29

I think this may be the top of the sceptre.

Now I may be making picture out of clouds, but...

Also, the wording on the other side is not that unlike some of the Stephen coins. Look at the reverse of this one:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36599&cat=29

If yours is something similar, then it seems to be more poorly struck than usual, even though these are often very badly struck.

What does anyone else think?

[DEADLOCK]

I shall bring it to rally Sunday doc if your can make it, shall I give it a bit of foil treatment

[probono]

Having seen what you've posted (Doc) - it's quite possible - it's on a mis-shapen flan so definitely not a well made issue - so either Stephen or perhaps a Tealby type

[The Doc]

Having seen what you've posted (Doc) - it's quite possible - it's on a mis-shapen flan so definitely not a well made issue - so either Stephen or perhaps a Tealby type

Arrrrgh - one reign out - I think you've got it - Henry II Tealby

What I thought was the sceptre is part of the crown - the sceptre's on the other side. Like this one:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=31452&cat=30

[Chef Geoff]

oh well Radnor Bandit's yo da man
Ian said he thought it was a Tealby when it came out of the ground.

[Dale]

Well done Peter !! great work there, you look to be spot on with your id
il delete my first thoughts now I think you better check Alans coin now LOL