Not so ULTIMATE COIL

[stever]

Just thought i would post my thoughts on the ultimate coil on my garrett euroace it seems this has been a little over hyped i have not noticed extra depth at all over the stock coil i have tested it in the field on several occasions  and although its not a bad coil i dont think i would of bought one if id have had a chance of testing it first.im going to keep it on for a little longer in case the fields  were over minerlised but my advise to people thinking it will make a massive difference save your pennys people and dont believe the hype 

[Mike]

well iv had 1 on my explorer for over 12 months now and it is superb , i had a sef 12/10 before it and the ultimate IS MUCH BETTER , more stable over minerals , deeper and ultra sensitive to tiny things oh and its lighter .

40+ romans , 2 gold rings , gold sovereign , 12 hammered etc etc in 2012 , im happy  

[dances with badgers]

on the etrac the 13'' ultimate is awsome ask troutmasterfunk if you dont take my word for it .i have had some nice rings with it too

[Chef Geoff]

Thankfully many who have had them for their garrets have noticed a difference.
When you say you haven't noticed a depth advantage, how do you know their is something deeper to be found? There are so many factors that can effect coil performance, mineralisation, iron contamination, swing speed and sensitivity all play their part.
I'm not sure if you read my thread on why larger sized coils can't detect certain items at any depth than a 6" coil
http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=17543.0
Keep at it Steve it will pay off

[Dale]

I agree with you there Steve, I bought one not new second hand for my tejon I tried it a few times on my usual land what im familiar with and it did not perform as well as my Tesoro 10 by 12 wide scan it was not as stable and really struggled on small lead even pistol balls near the surface I was a little shocked really as I knew my other coil would of picked them up alot better.

I did ask a question about the ultimate coil compared to my 10 by 12  and got a reply,  its a no brainer the ultimate coil is better, after trying it I felt like a no brainer buying it

Mike I think your finds is a little to do with your machine also, I sure your standard coil would of found what you found may be more
but each to their own

butter tub of romans, hammereds, silvers, ect ect    

[Chef Geoff]

As you say Dale machines can play a part also. The benefits shown by using the Ultimate on one machine may not be equal to those obtained on another make/model, strangely however the Ace is the machine that gains the most advantage, in air at least.
Mike uses the same machine as myself and I can assure you that the standard coil doesn't even come close to being as sensitive or as good at the "dodgy" signals as the Ultimate.

[Mungo]

works well on the explorer 11..............

[Mike]

had a day out with neil a while ago on a field i new would produce roman coins as i had a few there previously , neil was using an explorer 11 or se with a 12/10 sef coil , me with my xs and ultimate , had a deep grunt of a signal and called to neil that this is a roman here , he came over tried his machine over it and had great trouble locating the signal were as i had it clear as a bell , he said if i didnt know it was there i would have missed it , anyway up came a nice constantine bronze .

on the day i had 7 neil 4 plus lots of other bits and bobs to add to our butter tubs  

[Dale]

My butter tub is is already over filled so id sling your bits and bobs Joke

Joking aside I would not put my standard 9 by 8 coil back on my machine as the large DD coils are great but the ultimate coil was not for my machine

[stever]

This is not supposed to be an ULTIMATE war just an opinion 

[Mike]

..................it really does do what it says on the tin 

[Dale]

Butter tub mike not tin

[stever]

it does mike if your coins happen to be sat on the coil 

[rjm]

I have the 13" ultimate coil on my Teknetics Omega 8000 detector.

I haven't used it a great deal, but what I can say is that it is more sensitive than the standard DD coil. I know this as I have to turn down sensitivity when I use the Ultimate coil compared to the settings I use on the DD.

It gives bigger coverage and is so light.

If you have been using a certain coil for a while it can take a while to get used to using another size and type.

But, at the end if the day, form your own opinion and if you aren't convinced it is better....flog it!

[Da Monkey]

Must say I have been impressed with what I have seen and the weight of the ultimate when I've played with them on rallies, Geoff would know better on this point, but I think the ace is 7.2kHz and the euroace 8.25kHz so maybe an ace 250 coil will be slightly out of tune on a higher frequency euroace. One company I have seen is selling one for each model.