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« on: January 16, 2013, 04:52:17 PM »

 Could someone please ID this cut hammered
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* obverse short cross half hammered.jpg (18.02 KB, 297x223 - viewed 1006 times.)

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 05:59:55 PM »
Id say Henry III 1216-72 nice find  Grin Huh
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 07:44:19 PM »
Well found. It's London mint, moneyer Abel. I think it's very late John (class 6b or 6c1).
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 08:05:01 PM »

 Thank you both, I don't know how you do it,I look in the spinks book and just get confused,I thought it might have been a John or a Henry but thats as far as I got.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 08:11:13 PM »
Im the same, just taking punts really lol

the doc will always produce the goods   Grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 08:50:14 PM »
Quote from: GJH on January 16, 2013, 08:05:01 PM

 Thank you both, I don't know how you do it,I look in the spinks book and just get confused,I thought it might have been a John or a Henry but thats as far as I got.
 Thanks again
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I don't think the Spinks book is all that clear. It would be much easier if I could find my 'Short Cross' Pennies book by Wren. It's all about the shape of certain letters and the number of curls and the like. Being able to read the moneyers name and mint signature also help to narrow things down - in this case [AB]EL.ON.LV[NDE] who was active from class 5c to 7a according to Spinks.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 08:55:11 PM »
Quote from: probono on January 16, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
Quote from: GJH on January 16, 2013, 08:05:01 PM

 Thank you both, I don't know how you do it,I look in the spinks book and just get confused,I thought it might have been a John or a Henry but thats as far as I got.
 Thanks again
 Geoff

I don't think the Spinks book is all that clear. It would be much easier if I could find my 'Short Cross' Pennies book by Wren. It's all about the shape of certain letters and the number of curls and the like. Being able to read the moneyers name and mint signature also help to narrow things down - in this case [AB]EL.ON.LV[NDE] who was active from class 5c to 7a according to Spinks.

 Now you really have done my head in  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 09:11:22 PM »
Well done Geoff, lovely find mate. You know your not missing much when they come up Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 04:29:59 AM »
nice find I would go for Henry the third but could be wrong I have found a couple of cut halfs but never a cut quarter Has anyone found a cut quarter???
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 02:05:32 PM »
John 1199 - 1216 Spinks 1350b page 156
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 03:02:03 PM »
Quote from: anthonyjay on January 17, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
John 1199 - 1216 Spinks 1350b page 156

I was looking at this - I didn't think the face was elongated enough for a class 6b, the crown jewel and the 'X' of rex were more like class 5b, but according to Spinks Abel didn't strike class 5b coins. If only the other half of the coin were there it would be much easier Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 04:21:17 PM »
Quote from: probono on January 17, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: anthonyjay on January 17, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
John 1199 - 1216 Spinks 1350b page 156

I was looking at this - I didn't think the face was elongated enough for a class 6b, the crown jewel and the 'X' of rex were more like class 5b, but according to Spinks Abel didn't strike class 5b coins. If only the other half of the coin were there it would be much easier Smiley

Thanks everyone for having a look, I'll see what I can do about the other half Probono  Smiley
 Geoff
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