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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2012, 02:54:15 PM »

I think they are people who have few or no friends and do it to impress others so they get all the attention, a sad lonely existence being an attention seeker. Or they could setting themselves up so some variety agent will book them for a new  show called; I WANT A FRIEND.

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 I don't get cross it just makes me smile to think that they think I'm so dull that I wouldn't know .. But hey it takes allsorts !!!!!
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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2012, 07:23:33 PM »

Have long suspected this has been going on....have suspicions.. but can't really prove it...
However .. a few years back we did kick one guy out of our club for doing this... and it was 'proved' he was.
As they say.. "The truth will out'

And then there are the yanks coming over here on special (and expensive) organised detecting trips.
Its amazing how many find gold coins ..... Shocked
Just google around....
Once again ... can't really prove it...

The majority of us go out into the fields knowing that 9 times out of 10 we will come back with just a worn Georgian
and 'more buttons !!'  But then lady luck will look down on some of us as... it did with Terry Herbert of Staffordshire Hoard fame... and all those Georgians and buttons are forgotten. The anticipation, the discovery, the wonder of holding something untouched for hundreds or even thousands of years. Perhaps even having your find displayed for all time in a museum.
Thats why we love this hobby so much !  Smiley And... friends for life !  Smiley
Anyone in it for other reasons needs to look in the mirror
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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2012, 07:50:37 PM »


There was a case a few years ago when some chap presented his finds to an F.L.O. at a dig near Canterbury. You can imagine his face when the F.L.O. asked why there were traces of Blu Tack on the back of the coins.
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2012, 07:32:18 AM »

Have long suspected this has been going on....have suspicions.. but can't really prove it...
However .. a few years back we did kick one guy out of our club for doing this... and it was 'proved' he was.
As they say.. "The truth will out'

And then there are the yanks coming over here on special (and expensive) organised detecting trips.
Its amazing how many find gold coins ..... Shocked
Just google around....
Once again ... can't really prove it...


The majority of us go out into the fields knowing that 9 times out of 10 we will come back with just a worn Georgian
and 'more buttons !!'  But then lady luck will look down on some of us as... it did with Terry Herbert of Staffordshire Hoard fame... and all those Georgians and buttons are forgotten. The anticipation, the discovery, the wonder of holding something untouched for hundreds or even thousands of years. Perhaps even having your find displayed for all time in a museum.
Thats why we love this hobby so much !  Smiley And... friends for life !  Smiley
Anyone in it for other reasons needs to look in the mirror
John



As to the yanks coming over here attending expensive organised detecting trips and finding Saxon gold and all sorts of quality finds,I agree it seems to me the organises are planting the ground so they can get them back next year and make a fortune in the process.

Can it be proved ? of course not


Back to why people bring stuff to rallies and claim they have found it on the day


Its not always about winning find of the rally,or attention seeking


Some of these people do it simply to avoid paying off there farmers on the land they have really found the coins or artefacts on



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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2012, 12:23:53 PM »

Have long suspected this has been going on....have suspicions.. but can't really prove it...
However .. a few years back we did kick one guy out of our club for doing this... and it was 'proved' he was.
As they say.. "The truth will out'

And then there are the yanks coming over here on special (and expensive) organised detecting trips.
Its amazing how many find gold coins ..... Shocked
Just google around....
Once again ... can't really prove it...


The majority of us go out into the fields knowing that 9 times out of 10 we will come back with just a worn Georgian
and 'more buttons !!'  But then lady luck will look down on some of us as... it did with Terry Herbert of Staffordshire Hoard fame... and all those Georgians and buttons are forgotten. The anticipation, the discovery, the wonder of holding something untouched for hundreds or even thousands of years. Perhaps even having your find displayed for all time in a museum.
Thats why we love this hobby so much !  Smiley And... friends for life !  Smiley
Anyone in it for other reasons needs to look in the mirror
John



As to the yanks coming over here attending expensive organised detecting trips and finding Saxon gold and all sorts of quality finds,I agree it seems to me the organises are planting the ground so they can get them back next year and make a fortune in the process.

Can it be proved ? of course not


Back to why people bring stuff to rallies and claim they have found it on the day


Its not always about winning find of the rally,or attention seeking


Some of these people do it simply to avoid paying off there farmers on the land they have really found the coins or artefacts on





I would personally disagree with that point. If they were going to stoop to that level of subterfuge, then all they would need to do is not show the farmer in the first place.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2012, 01:01:10 PM »

If they don't show the farmer there finds in the first place and  try to sell the finds it raises to many questions

The farmer could find out or be informed by someone else

So they take there finds to rallies and claim they have found them there

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2012, 01:52:47 PM »

No, got to agree with Taff. Unless the item  is worth a few thousand, there's no way a bog standard sale of $50 or £100 is going to be noticed, so why bring it to a rally in the first place.
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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2012, 05:40:20 PM »

I am talking about high value items
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2012, 05:47:42 PM »

i ve never seen high value items on any rally
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2012, 06:07:36 PM »

Items over £200 + some people would rather keep it to them self's than give the farmer his rightful share

Unfortunately there is lots of metal detector users out there that never show the farmer there finds instead they take them to rallies and say "look what i have found"

Myself and my two detecting mates show are farmers all are finds irrespective of value, this is one of the reasons we have so much land  Grin
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« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2012, 07:22:09 PM »

"Myself and my two detecting mates show are farmers all are finds irrespective of value, this is one of the reasons we have so much land  "

What`s the other reasons?
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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2012, 08:15:33 PM »

The other reasons are we put in a lot of leg work visiting farmers
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« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2012, 08:48:20 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2012, 07:20:01 AM »

everyone goin to get frisked on way in?if not then you will never stop this stuff happening at rallies.bit pointless if you ask me  Shocked
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And then there are the yanks coming over here on special (and expensive) organised detecting trips.
Its amazing how many find gold coins ..... Shocked
Just google around....
Once again ... can't really prove it...



na dont think that happens ,i think your talking about ChicagoRon and his team that comes over 3 times a year to colchester.
youve got to remember this Ron and at least 8 other guys start detecting at sunrise and go home at sunset ,ron was telling me that they dig at least 300 plus holes a day ,and just the other day he only found a couple of hammies ,law of averages means that 8 guys methodically search a field nothing gets overlooked
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