Cotswold Rally at Chedworth a great success

[avalon]

Had a great time at the Cotswold Rally over the weekend, weather was good and a few fantastic finds came up, which I am pleased to say was made by my club members, I think we mopped up.
 
Field 26 was the place to be, as the Archie’s had already cordoned off an area in which we couldn’t detect, so we hit the rest of the field.
Over 100 bronze Roman came up from various parts of the field, at least 20 Roman brooches, Celtic Woad grinder, and a Dobunni Silver unit which I found between two holes that had been dug by someone else.
My mate Bob went for the largest brooch, which I thought was just silvered but the F.L.O thought other wise and grabbed it as Treasure.

[Rob1974]

Nice finds Steve.

[peanut]

wow what an amazing location, its surprising that these undetected places can still turn up these days !

. I love your coin what a brilliant find .

[herbie]

Love the brooch, wish i had gone now

Herbie

[relichunting]

Herbie it was bloody hard work today,most of the good stuff was found yesterday

It was like getting to the party late

This is all i managed today

I found around 6 Roman grots

2 x bronze finger rings

1 cut half Henry 111 penny

[avalon]

Considering the field was done to death on the Saturday Shaun, you did well 

[Mungo]

nice finds , good day.....

[jaydogg]

Lovin the condition of Bob's finds esp the brooch.  Hope he gets it back.

[The Doc]

Great finds and report Steve.

I hope your friend Bob was happy that the FLO grabbed the brooch, because they have no right to do this.

Under the Treasure Act, you have 14 days to report your find to the Coroner, so anyone finding a Treasure item is perfectly entitled to take it away, get it photographed, valued, etc before declaring it.

[avalon]

Great finds and report Steve.

I hope your friend Bob was happy that the FLO grabbed the brooch, because they have no right to do this.

Under the Treasure Act, you have 14 days to report your find to the Coroner, so anyone finding a Treasure item is perfectly entitled to take it away, get it photographed, valued, etc before declaring it.

I will ring him tomorrow, to see what went on, I still think the brooch is silvered, so does not fall into Treasure.

[anthonyjay]

I was at the rally Sunday photographing for the FLO, among the items was the large brooch. Just before I left a young lad came over to Kurt and asked to look at it, he then told Kurt that previous ones had been identified as 'silvered' rather than 'Silver'. He then suggested it would be better to look through a magnifying glass to see if there was any sign of 'green'
corrosion as that would indicate a copper/bronze base material. The sign for this is usually found on one or both of the edges at the top of the brooch where the pin would have been located. After a look Kurt thought he could see evidence of it and stated that the lad may well be right.

[avalon]

I hope Bob got the brooch back, as I thought it was silvered as well, but I haven't been able to make contact with him since, so I'm still in the dark.

[relichunting]

Well I was there,and it was obvious to everyone with an ounce of common sense that the brooch was silvered


How an experienced FLO ?  could think it was solid silver is beyond me  


It is very unlikely to fall under the treasure act either

any object other than a coin provided that at least 10 per cent by weight of

metal is precious metal (that is, gold or silver) and that it is at least 300 years old when found

 

[dances with badgers]

wow steve your a lucky man having nice ground to detect on like that  niiiiiiiiiiice

[Kurt]

Great finds and report Steve.

I hope your friend Bob was happy that the FLO grabbed the brooch, because they have no right to do this.

Under the Treasure Act, you have 14 days to report your find to the Coroner, so anyone finding a Treasure item is perfectly entitled to take it away, get it photographed, valued, etc before declaring it.

Hi,
I have just logged on to this site to answer some of the questions raised.

You are absolutely right, you have to report treasure to the coroner or their representatives within 14 days from the point you realise that it is treasure.  I did tell the finder that I would not take it away, however he was most adamant that I took it saying that because I was there, he’d rather I took it with me.  

Roman brooches were not silvered, but tinned.  Silver was used on copper alloy brooches but this is mainly restricted to wire inlays and foils. However, please remember that an artefact more than 300 years old, which has more than 10% gold or sliver, is still treasure.  The material of the brooch is silver, this is clearly visible on the break of the pin, or the broken catch plate where a cross section of the metal is easily seen.  The copper corrosion on the head plate at the top, this is where impurities in the metal have leach to the surface.  This is a process occasionally seen on silver radiates where the copper in the metal corrodes and leaches to the surface and deposited as a green layer, in some case that I have witnessed, obscuring the silver colour of the coin altogether.  

I hope this helps.