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« on: January 04, 2012, 04:07:12 PM »
Hello
Can anyone put an ID on this cut quarter, it's a short cross and I'm having a guess at a John! Also has anyone got any ideas on this hallmark, have trawled loads of sites but can't find anything, not sure if it's silver or EPNS, any help with these would be much appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 04:59:30 PM »
Yet another nice find Herbie, I'm not even going to attempt to id the quarter and will leave that to my betters...well actually the Doc Wink
I like you am so far running into blanks with the makers marks, though the picture of the ship behind the castle is very similar to the arms of Bristol. What exactly is the item or is it just a piece of random silver?
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 05:10:54 PM »
Quote from: Chef  Geoff on January 04, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
Yet another nice find Herbie, I'm not even going to attempt to id the quarter and will leave that to my betters...well actually the Doc Wink
I like you am so far running into blanks with the makers marks, though the picture of the ship behind the castle is very similar to the arms of Bristol. What exactly is the item or is it just a piece of random silver?


Hi Geoff
Regarding the hallmark its of a spoon i found today, Do you think it's Silver or EPNS?
Herbie.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 05:19:21 PM »
Have you got a photo of the whole spoon? the shape of the spoon will give a clue, there is and as far as I know never  been a Bristol hallmark but obviously if the spoon is old enough then it wouldn't be hallmarked anyway. The scratches in the surface don't seem to be showing any leaching of copper so it doesn't really look like EP either.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 05:44:45 PM »
At first I thought it might be Scottish before I noticed the ship behind the castle, also what I thought was a thistle looks more like a Fleur de Lys, the closest thing I found for that was Culpar, but still couldn't find maker or the castle and ship, a mystery Smiley
Spoon is 15 cm long.

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 05:57:43 PM »
Ah now seeing it like that I would say it was plate, It's post 1760 by it's shape so would be hallmarked, is that gold colour a result of your lighting or is that the copper showing through?
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 06:05:16 PM »
nice finds herbie  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 06:06:04 PM »
Quote from: Chef  Geoff on January 04, 2012, 05:57:43 PM
Ah now seeing it like that I would say it was plate, It's post 1760 by it's shape so would be hallmarked, is that gold colour a result of your lighting or is that the copper showing through?


Cheers Geoff
Think the gold colour is mainly down to bad light
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 06:08:54 PM »
On the second image. Are those 'pitting' marks?
You'll get pitting on plated metal if you use electrical means of cleaning but put the positive terminal
on the object you want to clean instead of the negative.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 06:47:52 PM »
Quote from: ysbytymike on January 04, 2012, 06:08:54 PM
On the second image. Are those 'pitting' marks?
You'll get pitting on plated metal if you use electrical means of cleaning but put the positive terminal
on the object you want to clean instead of the negative.

Hi Mike
Yes it does looked pitted had a good look with the magnifying glass and it does look plated
Herbie
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 09:07:16 PM »
Lovelu finds herbie well done mate
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 09:38:20 PM »
1/4 cut voided short cross. more likely henry 3rd.
pellets more joined so might be I'd-able from that.
Don't have any books to research at the moment.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 09:58:23 PM »
maybe henry 2nd   (henric is the wording )
later ones have 3 pellets so earlier coin if henry 3rd
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 12:23:45 AM »
yep a a nickel silver fiddle pattern tea spoon....(which isnt silver by the way  Grin) probably 1900
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2012, 12:36:35 AM »
1900??? please explain Cheesy
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