The Deus

[outlaw]

Hi,

I apologise if this topic has been aired previously,...... I am considering due to weight issues and after seeing the Deus performing at Alford and Stagsden rallies, to buy one.

It would be appreciated if any of you who use the Deus will comment as to its perfomance on what i call solid ground / hill farm pasture. Afew of the rallies whereby it appeared to out strip the explorers were fresh ploughed and very aireated soils.

A second part of question, i noticed a few Deus with the larger coils, which again bumps up the cost by an extra £300, so the outlay is quite considerable all in.

On the point of ordering one, and next thing is to decide from whom, detectnics/evergreen who are powys based and local or regtons ??

Look forward to your replies  

[Villan (Neil)]

Hello Outlaw,I have a Deus which I brought for it's lightness,due to tennis elbow.It is a machine I can use all day.
I've had mine about nine months,so I'm still learning all of it's capabilities,but so far I'm totally happy with it.
I only use the standard coil and get very good results with it on pasture as well as ploughed.
I brought mine from Regton as they are the sole UK importers and their after service is impressive and they price match if you can find it cheaper.
There are two members on here who have done a lot of trails with the Deus and used the large coil set up, RJM and Relichunting.I'm sure they will be able to answer all of your questions and expect they will be along soon.
I did recently read a review on the large coil which suggested to use it in 8 Htz with good results.As I said I'll leave it to the two Deus Guru's  
Well done on choosing the Deus,it's a superb machine.

[Dylan]

I wouldn't get one.  I had a Spectra V3 and could spend all day enjoying a nice walk around the fields without having to stop every now and then to dig finds.  I bought a Deus about a month ago and now have to keep digging things up - it's a real pain...

No, seriously I spent the best part of 18 months playing with settings on the V3 and although I improved my finds rate eventually I never felt that I was finding as much as I should.  Having just used the standard programs on the Deus I'm totally blown away by it.  I get loads of signals in ground that I thought I'd done to death with the V3.  Some of the weaker signals turn out to incredibly small bits of lead etc that it takes a while to find with my Garrett pinpointer but some have been coins on edge.  I definitely wouldn't have seen these with the V3 I'm sure.  I haven't had the opportunity to have a go over stubble yet but I gave up with the V3 as running the coil over the top wouldn't find anything, and running it through the stubble would just give false signals all the time.  I've tried running the Deus at stubble height over signals that I've detected low down and it's amazing how far of the ground you can swing it and still get a signal.  Definitely a thumbs up from me. 

[nfl]

Deus?? i was and am sill considering getting a Deus not beacuse its the all new singing dancing light piece of kit,if you ask me its over hyped over priced and dosent find anymore than any other detector at the high range price bracket,,ye i know most Deus users will say ive done some land to death with another machine and then comes the Deus and hoovers everything up  eem ground/ weather conditions swing speed,how you grid the land are all factors that have to come into account {ask the guys that have been doing the same fields for years and still make great finds}......if and when i get a Deus only 1 factor will matter to me to choose a Deus rather than a cheaper machine is that i already own a ferrari why replace it with a horse and cart  

[dances with badgers]

all the new machines are over priced if you ask me when i bought my etrac the mrs nearly divorced me ,good job we aint married lol .for the first month i thought i had gone over the top by getting it and started to regret it but now i would not swap it for anything.whatever you buy it will take a while before you reap the benefits.
 ask rjm (bob) about his finds rate since he got his Deus . better still go on one of dw rallies and im sure one of our members will give you a try before u rush out and buy one

[outlaw]

Thank you for your opinions, the weight issue with my se is a problem. I find lately that my arm aches something awful after a couple of hours and problems with back which i have a suspicion is due to the se.

I am nearly at that point in which i will order the Deus, though will never completely leave my se pro.

Most of our finds are in the 1st 12" so there isnt much difference between Deus and explorer.

Still would like rjm to add his comment 

[rjm]

Written without Predujice. Don't hang me if you buy one and don't like it. Do your own research!!!!!!


I have been detecting over 20 years and have used all the makes, models and ALL the XP range. I have had V3, Golden Mask3 (and 3+), Tesoro's, Lasers, etc etc etc, Minelab Tribune, Sovereigns, etc etc etc. You get the picture?

I was one of the first to get the Deus in the UK and bought it as I liked the XP range from the XP200, Adventis, G-Maxx2 and GMP I'd used.

From the moment I got it I gelled with it and knew I wouldn't be flogging it on. My finds rate has shot up. The machine is light, versatile, and unbelievable recovery speed. I can knock out hot rocks which I could never do with the other XP machines.

The machine is no more expensive than the E Trac (Regton will sell it for £1250 cash).

It will work on wet sand but it'll never beat the multi-frequeny machines or PI's.

If the machine was only average I'd sell it and then say! ........and then go and get another make/type. I've only met one person who is an E Trac user that prefers the ET (Doddy on DW) as he also owns a Deus. Having said that I'm on a Deus only forum that has quite a few ex ET users that wouldn't go back.

Debbie on DW has also used the ET and seems to prefer the Deus.

I mention the ET as it appears to be the one held in high esteem by other detector users. The T2 Ltd, and G2 are other highly rated machines but I haven't used these as they came out after the Deus and I don't need to try them!

The Deus has various GB facilities (including automatic tracking) plus a choice of frequenies to suit your searching. It's so darned fast that on speed 2 (it goes up to 5) you will get a double blip on a ring pull or ring....it's picking up both sides of the ring pull!!!!!!!

I've always found the depth acceptable and will make no claims that it's the deepest because I couldn't substantiate it.

The large coil (13x11") is a luxury. It's biggest assest is that it covers the ground better. It is deeper and make no mistake it's sensitive to cut halves, etc. The standard coil (9") is all you need.

I bought mine via Evergreen (I like his after sales service) but have had dealings with Regton (I have met and had many conversations with it's MD, Nigel) and there isn't much to chose between them. Regton is good if you want 0% finance.

To  sum up, I LOVE the Deus but I also appreciate some may not like it as much. You don't see many second hand...so that's a good indicator.

[relichunting]

I have been detecting now for over 30 years,I had an XLT for 7 years and in its day that was a fantastic machine.

The Deus is the best machine I have ever used,it is brilliant for finding hammered's and Roman coins on iron contaminated sites.

I have had two large coils in my time,the first I didn't give it a chance and got rid of it after a few weeks,the second I used it for a solid 3 months.

In my opinion the small coil is better,the signals are sharper,and on iron contaminated sites it beats the large coil hands down.

On pasture it will give you a little extra depth over the small coil,but do not expect it to be magic wand,its real advantage is the ground it covers.

I would not recommend the large coil,personally I do not think it's worth the money.

I would recommend the Deus,there is no detector out there at the moment that comes close to it.

[Jeb]

Hmmmm The Deus ! !  Its OK and thats all I can stick the label of on it.
 It was a bit of a deflation to me if I`m being honest.  I expected more from it.
  Yes ,its light as a feather, Yes, its perfectly balanced as far as swinging it for a few hours. Yes, it has numerous working modes,  But it STILL didn`t give me the WOW factor ,and get my jaw dropping unfortunately..
 It was fine on the Iron sites It was just ,medioche on the pasture ,but it was nothing I felt I had been waiting for  and finaly found my Eldorado of detectors and it did come as a let down after the initial hype about it .
 The Price is in the near top end of prices you can pay for a detector and I didn`t feel after forking out nearly £1800 for the Deus and Big coil , that I had had my money`s worth .
Even in the Gmaxx mode of 7+ kHz, it still didn`t deliver any outstanding depths I thought It possibly would ,even with the Big coil on .It can be used on the wet beach, but if you want to search in a few inches instead of the really Deep depths you need on the beach then you`ll be acceptable with the Deus on the Beach. I didn`t think it warranted even going again to be honest after trying it.
  Again ,I will say the Deus is an "OK" Detector ,but I personally WOULDN`T  say it rated any more higher than the "OK" certificate.  It coped well on Irony sites and it was sharp on the signal report ,but for £1349 or £1800 if the Big coil is bought also , I found nothing to write home about. Out of 10 I`d give it  7.
 My biggest Irritation was the faffing about doing the continual charging chore of the Coils, the Control box and the Head phones. That really got my goat up. #the being able to conceal the Control box and have the headphones hidden away under your hood was a nice touch  as well as wire free was a nice touch, but this comes at a price.  Over all its an OK detector but `just` another detector without the `must have `  label being  needed to be  pinned on it.

[relichunting]

7 out of 10 oh well not a bad score there.

The only other detector that intrests me at the moment is the Rutus,the only thing that puts me off it slightly is listening to the constant iron tones,and as there is no iron volume i think it would do my head in quite quickly.

Do you still hear them all if you set the discrimination to the 20-30 mark?

[Jeb]

relichunting wrote,.... "Do you still hear them all if you set the discrimination to the 20-30 mark."
 Yes .
 Actually i don`t have a problem hearing the Iron. in fact I WANT to hear the iron.  If I can`t ,how can I decide how high to have my sensitivity ?  I love hearing the Jupiter grunting around in the Iron then ! as soon as a good Target is detected it bangs it forth and you then reel the target in by working the signal . You don`t have to have a lot of sensitivity on the Jupiter, it goes up to 40, but I havn`t got it past 20 yet on my searching, otherwise you just send it bannanas its that sensitive .

[relichunting]

Mmmm setting discrimination on most machines to ignore iron,should stop it coming through on the audio

So your just going on tones really a low tone for iron

So if your on an iron contaminated site your going to be bombarded with low tone signals on every sweep of the coil,and with no iron volume it will become annoying,because by the video i watched they sound quite loud

[nfl]

the only problem i have with the rutus is the fact that it takes conventional batterys,its a headache,make sure they have enough juice,carrying round a spare set,maybe changing em in the field,,,but apart from that a nifty detecter that is proving itself with good reports and a snip at £500 sheets.

[Jeb]

Mmmm setting discrimination on most machines to ignore iron,should stop it coming through on the audio

So your just going on tones really a low tone for iron

So if your on an iron contaminated site your going to be bombarded with low tone signals on every sweep of the coil,and with no iron volume it will become annoying,because by the video i watched they sound quite loud

 I don`t use any Discrimination anyway Relic`.
If you get on a really irony bit of ground ,Yes, it will be on the noisey side, but hey! turn the volume down on the headphones or ,the detector itself if it gets a tad high .  You do have to listen for that good signal to be detected right up against the Iron when in amongst the Iron  . But the Jupiter  WILL catch it right  if its there. 
 The Jupiters like Pacman munching away at the Iron looking for the non ferrous target the Iron hides. I think its ace when it ferrets around in there. .  I`ve really taken to this Detector  and gelled with it almost instantaneously. I`m still not FULLY conversant with its working as far as the Motion/non motion  mode of operation, but i will be throwing myself in with it when I get more time as up to now I`ve not had the time I need..