ancient battle site research/permission

[dances with badgers]

hello peeps.i have been given permission to detect a piece of farmland near swansea which is a suposed battle site.the locals call it cae coch but noboby seems to know who was battling who or when.would i need permision of the local archeological society to detect there? where is the best place to research this battle site?i have tried the interweb but cant get any info on it.
 i cant tell you exactly where it is because the owner has been hassled a lot by detectorists in the past and would probably shoot me because he is a bit of a loon but is o.k with me to go there.
 would i have to go to the aberystwith library site?

[db4]

there is a stone with the history of the site by the cottage hospital.
carn goch means red marsh where the ground was susbossibly ran red with blood
the land is very boggy
hope this helps

[dances with badgers]

no not there buddy lol
 

[Chef Geoff]

No you won't need any special permission to detect on it, especially if you can't even find it on the net. If it was a protected Battlefield the land owner would have a copy of the scheduling and wouldn't let you on it.
Unfortunately I can think of many towns and villages that have stories/legends of battles, many of these will have some fabric of truth even if it is only a small skirmish.
Knowing south Wales the 3 eras you are usually dealing with are Roman (unlikely to find any evidence) 15thC and Owain Glyndwr (best evidence will be iron arrowheads) and the Civil war (lead musket balls).
Give it a go and see what comes up but bear in mind knowing the rough area is no real help to finding the actual spot as it can be quite localised.

[dances with badgers]

i have another site which i have permission for which i dont know if you remember i saw a big cat on a while back.that site has been declared a site of special sientific interest ,whatever that is ?according to the lady who owns it.she told us not to dig deep holes and we would be fine. ???how deep is deep

[Zeus (Joel)]

Hey Mike. If you want a buddy to go with you as that area looks really remote and one shouldn't go alone let me know as i am free. As for how deep is deep then i would say i wouldn't go no more than 3-4 inches

[Chef Geoff]

The depth SSi's is not below the plough soil, ie were the soil changes colour from cultivated to natural. If it's permanent pasture then you should only go an inch or two.
Ask her when it was ploughed last and go from there.. most ploughs are set to between 6"-9" and that would be your depth.

[dances with badgers]

no geoff this is mountain land ,fairly barren with rocky out crops everywhere.it would actually make a good location to film dr who.its looking across a valley onto a local castle called carreg cennen.loads of bullets there ,50 cal mortar tailfins ,my best find there has been a billy 3rd sixpence which was only 4'' deep

[Chef Geoff]

If you have rock outcropping then this is usually a good sign as it means it is constantly eroded and nothing is going to be too deep so you should be OK.

[Chef Geoff]

Years ago when we were kids a mate found 3 Roman coins on the side of the path on Mynydd maen up above Cwmbran. I went back years later and couldn't even find the Path 

[dances with badgers]

i will take pictures of this place when i get home geoff it looks like a martian landscape,there is a roman silvermine about 2 mile away as the crow flies.when my uncle worked for the welsh water board he went there with a team of researchers and he told me where it was.very remote though.napoleon is doing very well   
 i have not found anything roman yet i am sure i will before long 
 i see that ash cloud is back ,i will be stuck out here now with all these mosquito's and the mother in law 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggh
 

[Teacup]

I think carn goch means red mound as in burial mound

[Val Beechey]

Hi Mike.  Most SSI sites are noted because there is something unusual growing there. Trouble is you might be disturbing the roots but if it's high altitude it's probably rock plants anyway.
Just be careful how you put the soil back. 

Val

[Meatslicer]

Cae Goch means Red Field.

Could be from a battle site or just the local soil and geology makeup.

Eric

[dances with badgers]

its probably because of the geology i guess.sometimes if i dont get a chance to go to stone henge on the summer solstice i go there with a few beers and watch the sun go down behind the castle instead of watching it come up over stone henge