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Title: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 14, 2011, 09:19:29 PM i'm lost on this one first thought it was eddy4 but i don't think its an eddy at all looking closer but drawing a blank richard?? henry???
whats your call Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: The Doc on February 14, 2011, 09:23:26 PM Hi Richard,
Like I said on the other thread, can you get a bigger/sharper/brighter picture. A better focused picture of the right half of the head side would be great. I can't make out yet whether it's an Edward, Henry or Richard even :o Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: Neil on February 14, 2011, 09:48:24 PM Try this muddy image Peter
Cheers Neil Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 14, 2011, 09:52:12 PM a bit sharper but the coin is fuzzy in hand anyway rather squashed and worn soft.
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 14, 2011, 10:08:43 PM and another
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 14, 2011, 10:13:34 PM although its really lite I don't think its henry 4 as the size dont match up.
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: Napoleon on February 14, 2011, 10:34:07 PM Bloody hell Rich leave us some hammered for us , welldone on your find mate and hope you get no more for this year have a gold noble instead . Cheers .Nordine.
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: The Doc on February 14, 2011, 10:36:23 PM Right - I think I've got it.
Can definitely see what looks like the bottom of ..ARDVS REX on the obverse. . Could be RICARDVS or EDWARDVS, but I believe it is most likely to be a third coinage halfpenny of Edward III, like this one: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=17292&cat=27 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=17292&cat=27) Richard - can you measure the maximum diameter in millimetres for me please? If it is 14-15 mm then it's a halfpenny. If it's larger I'll have to think again! Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: Meatslicer on February 15, 2011, 09:59:31 AM I can see R I C. I have fiddled with the image a bit to try and show the bust more clearly. See what you think Peter.
Eric Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 15, 2011, 10:53:10 PM Its got to be the richard the 3rd half penny due to neck and hair type its defo a halfpenny size.
eddy necks not same I know it could just be different strike but its just too similar to the dicky. Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 15, 2011, 11:01:20 PM what do you think spink 1698???
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 15, 2011, 11:03:35 PM richard 2 perhaps not 3
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: The Doc on February 15, 2011, 11:05:12 PM I can see what you mean Eric and Richard, but I think you are misreading it. This is what it looks like to me (font and size are not quite right but you can see the idea).
Halfpennies of Richard III read RICARD DI GRA REX, so the lettering we can see does not match. Halfpennies of Richard II read RICARD REX ANGL, again not a match. Halfpennies of Edward IV read EDWARD DI GRA REX or EDWARD DEI GRA REX. The only possible match is Edward III, where the typical legend is EDWARDVS REX or EDWARDVS REX ANG. Did you manage to measure the size? Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 15, 2011, 11:07:51 PM yes it's got to be richard 2nd and spink 1698 london but not sure which class .
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 15, 2011, 11:12:33 PM guess i'm wrong but its got to be eddy then. just has to be a different tunic and hair strike.
i aint good enough for this Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: The Doc on February 15, 2011, 11:19:54 PM I think you can't always go on the style of the head with these. For example, have a look here - these are all third coinage halfpennies of Edward III, but look at how many different types of bust there are:
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=27&stype=1&si=halfpenny+third&perpage=12&sort=1&stype=&limit=&cat=27&ppuser=0 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=27&stype=1&si=halfpenny+third&perpage=12&sort=1&stype=&limit=&cat=27&ppuser=0) Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: Meatslicer on February 16, 2011, 02:03:32 AM I suppose they were using old dies and some were being struck abroad, where the legend had to have different content to show the different kingdoms and shifting political picture of the times.
It amazes me that the coin using public even knew what they were using to buy their groceries and whether they were getting the right change from traders. They must have spent hours every evening checking their coinage, just to check they had the right kings name. No wonder they clipped and deformed the coins, Eric Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: saxonman on February 16, 2011, 10:56:06 AM Just because your name is richard you tinks its a richard.So there Dick.Well done Dicumas the third on your coin.
Title: Re: what is this little hammered Post by: 16.5DD (richard) on February 18, 2011, 09:47:43 PM so it's a eddy III halfpenny then.
Oh i just love eddies they are so scarce lol |