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Title: Roman Brooch
Post by: rjm on April 16, 2010, 06:31:05 PM

Out for a couple of hours today and found this lovely Roman Brooch with pin intact.

Any ideas of type?


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 16, 2010, 06:31:59 PM
1st reaction is a dolphin brooch -- i'll check it out ..... nice find there bob



Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 16, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
http://gilliscoins.com/antiquities/iron_age_and_roman_brooches/index.htm (http://gilliscoins.com/antiquities/iron_age_and_roman_brooches/index.htm)

i stand corrected, its a trumpet brooch


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: dragonsbreath(Paul) on April 16, 2010, 06:34:27 PM
All i can say is its a cracking find well done PaulB. 8)


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Pipster on April 16, 2010, 06:37:38 PM
Super find well done Bob  ;)


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Legacy Hunter on April 16, 2010, 06:44:49 PM
thats a lovely brooch there well done
debs


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 16, 2010, 06:51:21 PM
Lovely find RJM and in smashing condition, Alan I think it's a "crossbow brooch".


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: The Doc on April 16, 2010, 06:52:10 PM
Great find Bob. Looks to me like a T-shape brooch, 1st-2nd century.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 16, 2010, 06:54:25 PM
yeah it could be a crossbow, but if u take a look at the posted link, about halfway down the page is a piccy almost identical to bobs - unless me eyes deceive me!!

however, i'm happy to stand corrected


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Passingclod(Andrew) on April 16, 2010, 07:04:21 PM
hi
Great find Bob .Good job the slab lifter didnt smash it.
Cheers Andrew


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club on April 16, 2010, 07:12:43 PM
very nice find that mate, A good start for next months find of the month Bob, ;)
Salty


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on April 16, 2010, 07:32:43 PM
Stunning , thats what its all about guys , Cracking condition as well.

Well done Bob.  ;D


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: StumbledUpon on April 16, 2010, 07:34:55 PM
Thats a very nice brooch, well saved Bob.  :)


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: cronge (richard) on April 16, 2010, 07:40:17 PM
beautiful brooch bob,lovley condition,dont find many with the pin intact,well done


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: nfl on April 16, 2010, 07:41:38 PM
havent found a roman broach as yet but if they look as good as that one ,i eagerly wait for the day,,,,,nice one fella.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: viking on April 16, 2010, 08:14:21 PM
stunning brooch rjm well done m8 cracking condition ;D


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on April 16, 2010, 08:57:57 PM
fantastic !...what a find..... ;).....byron


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on April 16, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
Beautiful Brooch Bob well done Fella ;0)


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: KANE (DES) on April 16, 2010, 09:04:59 PM
wow in that condition that is some find bob.
good hunting in the future for more.
DES


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 16, 2010, 10:26:23 PM
hi butty.
lovely roman brooch rjm cant fault you.
welldone great find.
ray.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: ORDOVIC on April 16, 2010, 10:35:56 PM
Superb Brooch !
Excellent condition to....be  worth going back to that find spot again ;).


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: benny on April 17, 2010, 09:42:27 AM
Thats a beauty mate! When something like that comes out,makes all them hours trudging round fields seem worthwhile.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Al.Thepastfinder, ( Alan ) on April 17, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
Arrr THATS A NICE BROOCH BOB,  STILL GOT THE PIN ON IT TOO, WELL DONE,


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: falcon. on April 17, 2010, 06:24:21 PM
Lovely find! :o well done.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: silky on April 17, 2010, 09:20:39 PM
well done a cracking brooch  :)


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: rjm on April 17, 2010, 09:52:50 PM
[url]http://gilliscoins.com/antiquities/iron_age_and_roman_brooches/index.htm[/url] ([url]http://gilliscoins.com/antiquities/iron_age_and_roman_brooches/index.htm[/url])

i stand corrected, its a trumpet brooch




Looks like a Trumpet brooch.........I like the price too!!!!!!!!!!

Mines very slightly different but similar.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 17, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
No it's not a trumpet brooch. A trumpet brooch is named because it has a conical end similar to the horn end of a trumpet.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 18, 2010, 07:08:17 AM
Hi Geoff

i can see where you are coming from and would agree that that was my initial understanding of a trumpet brooch. however, i think the definition of 'trumpet' may be wider in academic circles.

below are  links which suggest that maybe bobs brooch falls within the wider definition, than our own understanding.

cheers,


http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/museumcollections/collections/storydetail.php?irn=566&master=449 (http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/museumcollections/collections/storydetail.php?irn=566&master=449)

http://www.darwincountry.org/explore/013341.html (http://www.darwincountry.org/explore/013341.html)

http://www.essexdetectorsociety.org/page14.htm (http://www.essexdetectorsociety.org/page14.htm)


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2010, 09:13:34 AM
Alan, Link 1 and 2 are or were shaped like a Trumpet and 3 is difficult to see from the side. It's the cross piece that makes it a Crossbow brooch. none of the above have a defined cross piece.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: sodbuster on April 18, 2010, 09:21:27 AM
Any chance of a picture of the front of the brooch ?


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: zorro on April 18, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
Bob thanks a fabulous brooch  you found there mate. I've added it to the database. If you'd like me to add more info please pm me. ie: finds spot (nothing exact, county or area will do) ad whether found on ploughed pasture stubble beach etc.
cheers
kev


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2010, 08:53:36 PM
Well I have to take it all back. I have just got an email back from Birmingham uni, (they id finds for the 60-61 group) and the broach is, and I quote " a Colchester T-shaped (Doc was right, sorry Doc) brooch of the Lower Severn type, utilising a Polden Hills spring system. dating it to the 2nd century and probably no later than 180AD. One of a pair worn with a connecting chain.


Title: Re: Roman Brooch
Post by: rjm on April 19, 2010, 10:50:47 AM
Thanks to all for your interest and especially to Handyman & Chef for confirming Peters ID.

I've got a blooming library to refer to but too damn lazy!  :P


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