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Title: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on January 06, 2010, 01:47:56 AM
Sorry about the Harry Hill reference in the title lol

As there a few new owners of F75,s and T2,s
I thought we,d revisit this very popular subject

I'm in not way a F75 expert but like so many F75 owners Id like a have a T2 as well as i guess some T2 owners would like a F75
 Id like to know if Ive got the Best of the 2 1st Texas instruments flagship detectors

If you've owned both in the past what are the differences ?
Ive read a lot about the 2 machines (wasn't sure which one to go for)
heres a few of my thoughts taken from article's on the web

Why i like the F75 .....

The T2 has less features
 I like the constantly lite Backlight (I'm not sure if the new T2 have this feature)
Selectable processing modes independent from the Tonal ID the T2s processing mode is tied to the tone ID.
The gain and depth on the T2 depends on the Disc setting. It seems you have high gain from 0 to 10, lower from 10 to 20 and higher from 20 + again.
Static All Metal Mode on the F75 for cache hunting 
Last setting memory
The fisher has  15 numbers for iron Basically anything under 18 is Iron) T2 has 40 numbers for Iron
Notch System on the F75, only Disc on T2.   ;D

The Fisher F75 is the best ! or is it ?
Theres only one way to find out ......Fight ! lol




Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 06, 2010, 07:17:26 AM
Hi Phil good post, has the T2 got 40 for iron? I know it goes below iron  0 to 10 is minerals but I was under the impression 10 to 20 was iron not 40.Just seems a lot to me if it is 40 see got my explorer head on and thinking nearly half a screen lol


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: SimonH on January 06, 2010, 12:20:13 PM
I've always dug anything over 40 as I've read before that Iron is 40 and below


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: SimonH on January 06, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
Hers some interesting info on Fisherf75.com

http://www.fisherf75.com/pb/wp_cd1ee138/wp_cd1ee138.html (http://www.fisherf75.com/pb/wp_cd1ee138/wp_cd1ee138.html)

I got the T2 with all the updates and have to say it is a very good detector.
Here is what the F75 has over the T2
Backlight.
The always on backlight is liked by some users but disliked by others. I hunt by tone ID, so having no backlight on the T2 is not a problem. Some wish they could turn off the light of the F75.

First T2s didn't ID as deep as the F75, but the newer T2s ID as well as the F75.
The F75 Handles interference a little better, but i feel that the T2 has a little more punch if you can run ist hot.
The F75 has selectable processing modes that are independant from the Tone ID the T2s processing mode is tied to the tone ID.
The gain and depth on the T2 depends on the Disc setting. It seems you have high gain from 0 to 10, lower from 10 to 20 and higher from 20 + again. I like to use disc 0 with 2+ Tones.
Depth on the fly meter on the F75 and signal strength on the T2.
Static All Metal Mode on the F75, not on the T2.
Last setting memory on the F75, not on T2.
First I thought ist is better to have last setting memory, but due to notch and disc setup on the F75 you may get confused what you did to the detector and a program error is still there if you turn is on again. On the other hand, programming the 3 settings on the T2 is done is under 10 seconds.
The F75 has only 15 numbers for iron and the T2 40 numbers for the iron range. If you have good target mixed in with iron the T2 does a better job than the F75.
Notch System on the F75, only Disc on T2. I never liked Notch because you can only Notch out a group of numbers. I rather go by the VDI numbers, because often one number up or down from pulltab can be the gold ring.

The T2 has less feature, but is easier to use and setup. I year ago I thought the F75 is best for me, but now I use the T2 with the new 5" DD coil most of the time.

BTW, if you don't have the new 5" DD coil for the F75 or T2 you may want to get one. It separates extremly well and the depth is hard to believe for a coil of that size.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: SimonH on January 06, 2010, 12:27:06 PM
Garysdeteting F75 vs T2 shootout

http://www.garysdetecting.co.uk/fisher_f75_information.htm (http://www.garysdetecting.co.uk/fisher_f75_information.htm)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on January 06, 2010, 04:17:38 PM
I really like the F75 and i cant see the T2 is that differant but id still like to own one  but not at the Current  used Prices !


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 10, 2010, 10:44:12 AM
Having owned the two models ,i have had the F75 from when it was first introduced into the UK . The first batch came in & I was privileged to get one. And I still own one today .

The T2 was the first detector by First Texas to move away from the olde 1200 series type detector made famous by "Fisher" and the Bounty Hunter series of which they own. They decided to make an entirely new concept of detector of which they succeeded.
So first off the "First Texas production line came the "T2" .
This detector was light to swing and had a perfect balance about it. It is adequately deep and sensitive for a detector to be called i`d say three quarters of the way to becoming a top class detector.

Then came the Fisher F75 !
 This was a step up in the spec of the T2 . It was hardly worth bringing another clone in workings of a T2 was it ?
So they improved the sensitivity and gave  a few added improvements over the T2.
(of which have already been mentioned by Phil.)

As i said having had both the T2 And the F75 my conclusion is that the F75 is the better Detector .
The sensitivity is considerably higher than the T2 and can run very hot. This coupled with a lightning fast recovery speed makes the F75 a better choice than the Goldmaxx Power even (i`ve used and owned three of those by the way for up to 3 yrs,when they first came out )
The F75 is as fast as the GMP in recovery speed ,and can go far deeper in depth capability.

There`s not a lot to "fight" out with the comparison of a T2 and F75 ,as without doubt the F75 is the more " superior " detector ,in depth and sensitivity, both vital ingredients to obtain the title of top contender.

I have been lucky to own and use most of todays and past detectors.  My conclusion is out of all the detectors i`ve used in the past thirty odd years, the F75 is the best detector out there.
 The reason i say this is ,i`ve based my opinion on the "Over all " statistics about what a detector needs to be ,to be the most consistent & user friendly detector you can buy.
The F75 in my opinion ticks all the required boxes to meet the full requirements.

Its Light as a feather, Its perfectly balanced, its got very good depth seeking capability. Its VERY sensitive when the right mode is engaged, yet the sensitivity amount can vari according to the users needs.From Red hot ,to very cool.
 Its got only two things to adjust on it. A knob and a press button, if you don`t count the simple on off and volume knob.
 The user manual is pretty well self explanatory and if your pretty clued up on detector workings you should be using it proficiently within a month. If your a novice , there is settings on it that can be applied to get you going for a while to you become confident in it to start using other settings and experimenting with those.

 The T2 is much the same . Its the same looking in shape but is coloured different. The same one knob and a button to use it is applied and its pretty well much the same theory in its menu ,less the additional items of course the F75 has on board.
 Both these detectors are i`d say highly under rated  and yet they are so user friendly and can give most of the so called top contender spot Detectors a good run for there money.
 I could own & use any detector out there going.. But!  I choose to still use the F75 as my primary detector.

Oh! and this thing about the Iron.
On the F75 if you use the All metal mode or the Discrim mode , Iron can easily be recognised by the Digital Numbers or the low grunts.
If the readout is under 18 and especially "9" its Iron and Iron can blast in at 99.
If your an experienced F75 user you don`t dig Iron. Its that simple.  You will recognise Iron by either numbers on your screen  or the Sounds.
I virtually never dig Iron .I`m not going to say never as i never say never "just in case" but i can say i virtually never dig Iron. Its so easy to recognise once you know what the F75 is telling you. Its all about knowing your detector.  If you don`t know what its "trying" to tell you you will dig Iron on any detector in fact that can tell you Iron is there..


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Neil on January 10, 2010, 10:48:57 AM
Interesting post gents - I am toying with trying a new manufacturer this year just for a change, but still keeping my arsenal of Minelabs.

How robust are they because remember when the T2 was launched there was loads returned due to it being quite fragile?

Neil


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 10, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
The T2 & the F75 IS NOT as Robust as the Minelabs thats for sure!  The trade off is weight !  If you want a detector thats built like a tank then the Minelabs are the boys. But the downside is carrying that weight.
Now as you get older you don`t want to be lugging a heavy detector around for hours on end.  Now i can swing the F75 around for hours with no trouble.  In the three years i`ve had an F75 i`ve never had anything break on it. That could be because i tend to respect my detector which cost a lot of money, so, it doesnt get slung into the boot or mishandled.  
I don`t molly coddle it when i use it but i respect it, and that line of thinking has  paid dividends over the last three years.

Ok the F75 just mightn`t get the depth the E trac or Explorers will, But its not that far behind them, and when you weigh up the pro`s n cons of them all, my edge in the statistics has to be towards the F75 given the OVERALL pluses & minus  .

This is not taking anthing away from the T2 i might add.
The T2 is in my opinion a very good detector  indeed.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 10, 2010, 01:00:15 PM
TOTALLY AGREE WITH JEB,I HAVE THEM BOTH..THE F75 IS THE SUPERIOR OF THE TWO...T2 LTD SOUNDS INTERESTING THO....THE CONSCEPT IS THE SAME   BUT THEY ARE DIFFERENT MACHINES.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: colin on January 10, 2010, 08:26:54 PM
i wouldnt swap my f75 for anything simplicity in itself i use the jewelry mode on most field conditions unless theres a lot of iron present ,if so i drop the sensitivity or switch to default great machine.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 11, 2010, 05:38:25 PM
i wouldnt swap my f75 for anything simplicity in itself i use the jewelry mode on most field conditions unless theres a lot of iron present ,if so i drop the sensitivity or switch to default great machine.
Hi Colin.

Colin , hope you won`t mind but here`s a bit of information for you you might like to hear.
On the F75 and even the T2,running on a high Sensitivity in the iron strewn ground will give a much enhanced resolution on non ferrous targets. This should never be the case but with the F75 and the T2 , but! IT IS ,just that.
It actually goes against all the things we learn about metal detecting as we read or listen to others. Yet with the F75 and the T2  it remains a paradoxical contradiction by using HIGH sensitivity in and amongst the trashy soil. This is why i have hi lighted your words.
 If you can try what i`m going to tell you to try now after doing it when you have found a target in the trash, try turning  your sensitivity down before you dig the target and see what happens to your target response.
The Target response WILL decrease into a very quiet response.

So! the thing you have to do with the F75 and the T2 is (wait for it) .......
If your working in a heavy trashy area of Soil Turn your sensitivity right up.

So you find a trashy site. what do you do. You Fast grab on a nice clean bit of ground first. You then stick your Discrim on "6" and for THE BEST target separation you would be advised to stick your tone on "1" tone. You can use De or PF mode or even JE ,but JE will give you hell with these settings. My advise is stay on DE, or PF with these settings.
Your sensitivity you can stick on 90. (yes 90) Don`t be afraid to do this. You then can search in the Iron and watch and listen for that "good each way signal to come out.
OK it may take a few times for you to get used to this, but believe me Colin, it will work for you.
The F75 is like no other detector ever made. Its unconventional and DEADLY IN THE RIGHT SETTINGS.
But! the minute you switch on to more than one tone , be it 2,3,or 4, tone you will instantly be invoking your Discrimination to "15 ". The Target Tone in 1 tone will report as a long drawn out sound and will not cause the VDI to jump about anywhere near as much , but it will be crisp and clear. Watch your meter and watch the Values given .


Now having said all that there is another way you can hunt.But! only if you can hunt with a lot of noise in your ear to contend with.
Try putting in "0" discrimination.and a Sensitivity of anything up near 85 to 95. (again no mistake) Then you can invoke any of the Multi tones available. Be it 2,3,  or 4 Tones.
 Now of course the detector WILL mask some of the targets in the multi tone setting this is because any heavily masked target that the VDI identifies as 15 or below WILL present an Iron audio Target response, But the justification will be that the F75 will go deeper because the discrim setting is 4 or below ,especially with the discrim being on "0".
 So thats another hunting setting but by that last set up yes, you`ll get more Target masking for sure BUT! you could get the deep targets also , where as in the previous setting, you won`t get quite the depth you will with "6" discrimination, but you will get better Target ID ing for easier recovery techniques.
 
 You could utilise both methods by trying the Disc "6 "and Monotone first in the trash, to get all of the unmasking done, then later ,after a good workout, try the "0" Disc and multi tone 2,3 or 4 tones  to try to locate the Deep targets.

So don`t forget Colin High trash means HIGH sensitivity with the F75.

 I hope this info will be of some help to you as it was to me when i first learned it .
 I can only pass it on to others . its down to the individual if you want to try and use it.



Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 11, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Hi Jeb,

Seeing as we're on the subject I have some land that used to be an old railway track,  so there is plenty of iron there.  There is also loads of bottle tops cans etc as it was later used as a picnic area (and still is) would increasing the sensitivity still work, knowing how much aluminium is there


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 12, 2010, 08:03:36 AM
yes Paul, as long as you use the settings I`ve suggested you use,and the area your going to search is not subject to a large amount of EMI (Electrostatic Magnetic Interference) EI , High or low electricity wire. Sub stations near by. Electric fencing wire. Anything like these which will then cause massif interference to your F75 or T2.
 If you know there will be lots of rubbish in the ground ,sweep slower than the normal rate of sweep speed and could i suggest as i always do, carry a hammered coin with you and drop it on the floor and sweep your coil over it every now and then, to get an example of what you must listen for, in sound and visual ,on your screen. Its just a case of training your ear & eye for what your after.

You may wish for about 20 minutes to have a "play" with the digging.
Dig signals you think might be good or bad "just" to see what your detector is telling you. There is no hard and fast set rules you have to follow in so much as a set pattern of procedure . You might want to as i just said investigate a few signals . Test yourself  at the beginning. Dig what you think IS rubbish. SEE if your thoughts were right.  
Dig obviously what you think is a good target and see if you were right.  There is no harm in investigating theory`s, or given procedure. This is all about enjoying what your doing as you do it.
I see it as a sort of game. " Hunt the hidden target." How good can you be? How good can you get ?  How good are you ?

And then after trying out different peoples suggestions, if they work for you , its a bonus. If they don`t and your not comfortable using other peoples suggestions , go back to what YOU were comfortable with.
As ,Nothing ventured ,nothing gained .What works for others just mightn`t be to your liking. There is no absolute ,right and wrong way. Just whats right for you and what your comfortable with. Its a Hobby at the end of the day ,to be seen and done as such.
There ARE better working ways than others but only if you find it so.
I hope this makes sense ?

 PS Colin, if you are on an olde railway line, be prepared to combat coke too. You will i think find the numbers coke will register at. Its down to you whether you dig those numbers or not.
I personally do dig coke because the number bracket coke falls into, "could" be also something good. I do know when i`m out that "that" particular number, that the coke does register at will probably BE COKE. But I`m not prepared to take the chance that it almost certainly IS coke, so i do dig that number. Probably 95% of the time it will be coke. But i always think, What if ? That other 5% will be what ? but there is signs actually that tell you its coke. jumping about figures for one will not lock on to a particulat number.thats more than often coke.
As i said this is a personal thing i do, but others may choose to disregard the coke figure that normally will register or recognize the jumpy vdi figures.. Again its all down to personal preferences, and no discredit if you choose either method .


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 12, 2010, 08:30:04 AM
Cheers Jeb much appreciated, I have been over it many times before with the Se and the finds are usually Viccys etc that era along with the odd ring plenty of decimal. I have also been given a farm where there was a well there and is about 50yrds from a Roman road. Unfortunatly it goes down hill then cos they went and put a big water pipe through there in the 60s and the field has loads of modern junk in there I cant see me finding anything Roman but you never know. Just need the weather now which is so frustrating .


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 12, 2010, 08:36:15 AM
Paul, do you use the All Metal Mode to search in at all ?  
  This is my Favorite mode to work in ,especially on Pasture or Stubble or Sweet corn Isles.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 12, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Jeb I have only managed to try the T2 once and that was a quick half hour lol, I need a day out with it to get to grips with it. incidently are they anygood on beaches? cos god knows when this ground will thaw


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 12, 2010, 11:13:36 AM
Oh ! right . Then I think you`d better walk before you run with the T2.
 Get a few working hours under your belt with it at "moderate" settings to "Get acquainted" with the Detector.
 By moderate settings i would stick it in two tone. Disc 10 and sensitivity at 85.
 Thats a pretty good setting to get you going.
 I actually thought you had an F75  as i`m a lot more conversant with the F75 than the T2 , simply because i`ve used the F75 a lot longer than i have a T2.

 Try for the Beach with a T2 ...... Tone 3B,  Sens 90,Disc 40. I don`t do beach work myself, but i had that setting given me. So its worth a try.  ;D


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 12, 2010, 11:35:04 AM
Jeb you sold me the T2 lol, just realised I have changed names though so prob threw you      (Paul/Lisa) 


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 12, 2010, 12:48:12 PM
Ha Ha thats  CHEATING Paul ;D ;D  as i said though mate, start off steady ,and work your way up to the more hotter settings. and you will love the T2  i guarantee you`ll love it.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: colin on January 13, 2010, 12:12:36 AM
cheers jeb i will give ur settings a go never looked at it like that before especially with the sensitivity were all here to learn after all, i put youre reply in my favourites so as not to lose it,let you know how i get on. 


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on January 13, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
I copy and paste everything Jeb has to say about the F75 into my documents
You cant get this sort of indepth info from anywhere else hes a star !

Cheers Jeb ;0)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Stig(The) on January 13, 2010, 07:07:48 AM
I want a F75 now !  ::)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 13, 2010, 08:46:41 AM
Id settle for a broomstick with a frisbe stuck on the end right now if it ment i could go out lol ah well back to the jigsaw puzzle which ive been doing for two weeks getting close to finishing it now. I know im sad


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: StumbledUpon on January 13, 2010, 10:50:04 AM
Hi Jeb, ;D some great info for 75 users, Ive had mine a while the first batch, pre-upgrade (new hand grip+sealed) I have not used it in single tone but will give it a go, My findings with my machine is the high gain JE works best,This mode Is the most sensitivity and gives a much sharper audio response, Ive done tests with a 22 air pellet on very bad ground and found this mode to be the best. I dont use the motion all metal because I have no confidence in it, the tid numbers are not to be trusted, (well at least on my machine) I found this out when detecting and I got a signal reading 16 looked down and there was a roman bronze laying on the surface, Also when using all metal your audio is deeper than your Target ID so I would have to dig and most probably it would be iron. I also find that using very high sens I get a distorted audio and get far more false/positive signals on iron. I dont know if the very first batch of  machines sold in this country are running "super hot" and they cooled them down when they did the upgrade? and thats why I cant run very high sens, there was a lot of users complaining about noise at the time. I must say it is a fantastic machine and I have found some lovely things with mine. I would never sell it, :)




Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 13, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
Hi Maxine,
I bought my f75 last year as a back up for my t2.Did try it afew times.but could not get on with it.I was thinking of selling F75.One must or the SE.one had to go.f75 was fav....then at the rally at Albourne the t2 started to play up.(DAMP)Changed for f75.First signal hammerd of Mary.rubbish coin but still a hammerd..
Next..SCAN RALLY.One h..ammerd plus silver tanner.Liz2.......Im thinking now this is a good machine.So decided to keep it..the SE was the one that had to go.......And we no where that went to dont we...Hasnt she done well!!!!.
Anway next Scan Rally found two more hammerd,thats the one you had Roman Bronzes and a cut half.then relised i was finding no Bronze coins.
what you said on this post about Roman Bronze coming in on 16...As you no with this machine we are told to dig everything over 18 which i do..From now on its 16 and over thanks Maxine for that info,and Jebs to.by the way i found all the hammerd in ALL METAL....On another note PHIL you are in cukoo land.you own the best machine.The t2 an f75 are different machines and both are crackers..stop winding us up.HA!ha!oh!and Marys SE of coarse.....GWIL.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: StumbledUpon on January 13, 2010, 12:30:30 PM
Hi Gwil, :) I would not dig 16 in discrim, but I would definately dig 18, small bronze will register this low, 16/17 will be coke, from memory,:-
18-22 foil small bronze/hammered, cut 1/4s (I have dug a fibula at 19)
23 up- gold, and hammered, (small 1/4 stater at 24)
Ive dug groats 52-56 but also coke sometimes comes in the fiftys,
£1 coins 62/63 if your on a car boot site ;D
big siver 70+
large iron high nineties.



Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: StumbledUpon on January 13, 2010, 12:34:56 PM
Im thinking now that maybe these numbers may not apply to the motion all metal mode?  ???


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 13, 2010, 01:29:09 PM
Thanks MAX....for new readings..I used to use discrim alot..but on a rally up north i had a shock when i dropped a large musket ball.tried to find it in the grass but couldnt at first.it was only three inches below the coil.that was very strange!.Since then more or less used ALLL METAL. all the time,and have been very succesful in that mode.Interestingly a dutch site test says the 75 has problems picking up high quality LEAD???????But only that metal...they go on to say the mine labs are probe best with f75 just be hind them.Ido agree with them on this, expecialy after my experience of the high quality lead found with my f75.Strange with the T2 i find loads Roman Bronzes.but not much in silver.F75 lots of silver no bronzes...thanks for info again and lets hope its on Sunday.....gwil.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: SimonH on January 13, 2010, 02:03:36 PM
For the T2 - How to check software version
With the T2 switched off, push trigger forward and hold in grey button. Use other hand to turn on machine. The numbers 6.0 should appear if the latest software is installed.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: StumbledUpon on January 13, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
Thats very interesting Gwil, Im thinking that the non-ferrous id could be much lower in the all metal mode, and there for you would be missing good targets if you are using the discrimanation parameters. I will check it out, and let you know. :)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 13, 2010, 03:50:26 PM
IFyou will MAX, ile try to when we have some tidy weather.Havent found a tidy Roman patch yet to work with the f75.With the T2 soon as i hit a Roman Bronze i would work the area very slowly,and with a lot of succes to.Small Roman Bronzes come in at 50 to 52.on the T2......so really i sould do the bleeding obvious,test some of my Roman coins with the F75.so 18 up in DISC.,and pos 16 up in ALLMETAL..As you say interesting Thanks again Gwil.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: 1morecoin on January 13, 2010, 04:29:19 PM
I was told by a few experienced T2 users not to dig anything under 45 as it's allways rubbish, cut quarters and halfs are in the mid to top 50's

The F75 must be calibrated differently  :-\

Steve.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 13, 2010, 04:46:35 PM
I AGREE STEVE,BUT SOMEONE IN THE CLUB SAID HIS GOLD STATER CAME IN ON 36.CONFUSING IS IT NOT?


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 13, 2010, 07:01:10 PM
THANKS SIMON FOR INFO TO SEE WHAT MACHINE I HAVE....GWIL


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Jeb on January 13, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
Its as i`ve pointed out somewhere Guys.
 "suggestive settings" Can only be SUGGESTED to other people . They are by no means Gospel as best settings.  
I`d look at it as a bit of additional information to jot down on " F75 Notes" As i have (a folder full actually).
 They can be tried at any time at your discretion.  You may wish to try them and use them. If you like them , use them regular. If your feeling their just OK ish. Keep them for again to try at a later date.
 If you don`t definately like them ,bin them.
Its all additional knowledge that we can exchange with each other for trying.
That`s how i see it anyway.
 I also take notice of people posts and jot notes down to try, if i havn`t tried it.
 This surely is what our Forums are for ? We exchange knowledge and that`s great!


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: colin on January 13, 2010, 08:07:25 PM
were all on a learning curve jeb you have got to try different things thats the only way you will find what works best for every individual.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: saxonman on January 13, 2010, 09:12:02 PM
WE ARE ALL FOR THE LEARNING CURVE.THANKS BOYS..


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 17, 2010, 07:55:31 PM
well got out for an hour today and cant seem to decide what settings to use. I wanted to try disc 50 sense 90 1 tone but there seemed to be a lot of chatter and not knowing the machine would it be better to lower the sense or reduce disc (50 an over is in boost) Anyway ended up with disc on 35 sense 90 and 2 tones though i did switch back and forth with 1 tone ( which i found better) the ground wernt the best full of modern junk but i knew there would be some modern coins there, anyway i managed a silver 3p and 3 coppers  I ended up ignoring ring pulls which i know i shouldnt but there you go anything 70 or above i dug ring pulls all seemed to be 62/67 so left them


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: JRD on July 20, 2011, 06:01:44 PM
Hey all I know this is a very old thread but I am having the same dilemma at the moment but with the latest specials editions of these two! So thought I would bring it back to life.

I have asked a couple people already but wondered if anyone else had a view of which is the best out of:-

Fisher f75 special edition (black) OR the Teknetics T2 special edition - Only really interested in the SE versions of these two, but have read so many reviews lately of both I still cannot make my mind up.

1) I have read great reviews regarding the F75 SE but also they are very chatty - is the T2 SE also very noisy?
2) Is the T2 more suited to European market and F75 more to the US?
3) Which out of these two would you recommend over the other?

cheers,
Jonathan


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: nomad on July 20, 2011, 06:18:01 PM
do i really care..........no...as long as i have a machine that works is all that matters to me......


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Roman (Ray) on July 20, 2011, 06:31:21 PM
IM STAYING OUT OF THIS ONE..LOL...ALL I KNOW IS THE D.F.X WOULD DECK THE PAIR OF YOU..LOL.
RAYMONDOOOOOOOO


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: JRD on July 20, 2011, 06:37:42 PM
do i really care..........no...as long as i have a machine that works is all that matters to me......

huh?

Does anyone have anything to say that actually might help me decide?


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: JRD on July 20, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
IM STAYING OUT OF THIS ONE..LOL...ALL I KNOW IS THE D.F.X WOULD DECK THE PAIR OF YOU..LOL.
RAYMONDOOOOOOOO

Guys I don't want a war of detectors here, or my detector is better thatn yours debate - I am asking for help in deciding between two machines.

Any help / pointers would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: nomad on July 20, 2011, 06:42:12 PM
hi jrd...go to joan allen or similar..and try them ..they have or did have a test bed plus some very helpful staff..who may be able to steer you in the right direction...after all its you that will use the machine...


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: pontyboy on July 20, 2011, 08:49:23 PM
I have the T2 SE it is probably as chatty as the F75. both virtually the same but i have heard the T2s are better on european soils. I dont know??


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: JRD on July 20, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
I have the T2 SE it is probably as chatty as the F75. both virtually the same but i have heard the T2s are better on european soils. I dont know??

Thanks mate - Yeah I read the same - food for thought I was set to get the F75 SE but not sure if the T2 SE is more suited to us this side of the pond.

Anybody else offer any views please? My E-Trac is now sold and the money is burning a hold in my pocket  ;D


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Meatslicer on July 21, 2011, 08:50:42 AM
How much did you get for it Jon. Last time I looked it was on 400 smakeroonies.


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: JRD on July 21, 2011, 10:06:58 AM
A lot more than that in the end :)

Just sent you email regarding.

Thanks for advise so far.
If anyone else has more opinions of which one to get?
Please fire them over. Will prob look to buy new detector this evening, kind of swaying the T2 SE way now, but I am easily swayed!  ;D


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Moncó on July 16, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
Hello JRD
( my opinion )
Between both the machines I dont think there are many significant diferences...I think that from a certain date they are the same machine if I recall correctly teknetics bought the Fisher company, or at least that is what I was told after starting a similiar topic on another forum. ???

The T 2 is a little chatty, but for me that is a good thing, I am used to the g 2 which likes to `` talk““ aswell. I personally would go for the T 2, purely because it is for some reason the better known machine of the two, think future, if you eventually want to get another machine and sell this one I believe you would sell the T2 Special edition easier than the F 75.

I have seen great reviews of teh T 2 special edition, and currently am torn between the T 2 special edition and the XP Deus..

Good luck making your mind up.. ;)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Metalmickey on July 16, 2013, 06:39:49 PM
The F75 is the "Machine"  ;)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Moncó on July 16, 2013, 06:42:25 PM
The F75 is the "Machine"  ;)

Hi metalmickey.
Would you like to give us some input...as I said below this was `` my opinion““ based on similiar topics and discussions, what made you prefer the F 75 over the T 2 ? ?


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Metalmickey on July 17, 2013, 06:17:54 PM


Hi metalmickey.
Would you like to give us some input...as I said below this was `` my opinion““ based on similiar topics and discussions, what made you prefer the F 75 over the T 2 ? ?
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The F75 has a back light. AWESOME feature with very little battery draw. 30-50 hrs on 4 AA.
F75 has a notch feature.
F75 retains settings when turned off.
F75 iron goes 1-20. T2 1-40.

Those are the main ones right off the tops of my head.  ;)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Moncó on July 17, 2013, 06:21:59 PM
Good answer......
Its through such exchange of opinions and experience that we find out which machine addapts to our needs....

Thanks ..


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: nobby on July 17, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
F75 also has 4 processes (programs)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Chef Geoff on July 17, 2013, 07:51:21 PM
And a memory


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Moncó on July 17, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
But depth and efeciency they are practically the same, yes ? ? ?


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: The Doc on July 17, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
This thread is two years old so Jon probably made his decision some time ago  ::)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Chef Geoff on July 17, 2013, 09:24:44 PM
But depth and efeciency they are practically the same, yes ? ? ?

I think the original T2 is regarded as the more sensitive model but as with all sensitive machines it was very chattery, unfortunately us detectorists have become lazy in the way we use discrimination and just want a machine to tell us when it's guaranteed good without all the other noises and so the 6 and 6.5 have been "civilised" for better sales. The T2 does seem to have a slightly lower acceptance on low conductors but this is more "on paper" than in the field, so yes basically the same machine with just enough difference for people to want both (cynical)  ;)


Title: Re: Fisher F75 v Teknetics T2: Whos the best? theres only one way to find out FIGHT!
Post by: Moncó on July 18, 2013, 11:07:54 AM
Great reply Chef Geof..

I know this thread is old but I have ``hijacked““ it and am getting some great feedback...ehheheheheh ;D ;D ;D ;D


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