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Title: Unidentified
Post by: Stig(The) on December 29, 2009, 07:03:56 PM
Received a "delivered by hand" Xmas card today through the letterbox from a farmer who`s land i detect on,thanking me for the case of beer & card i`d dropped off before Xmas day.Inside the card was these 2 coins & a little note saying thanks for showing the farmer & his family the finds made & the Silver coin & Token i had gifted them.
Has anyone any idea what they are?


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 29, 2009, 08:24:11 PM
The second one is a Victoria Diamond jubilee medal, these are not uncommon and come a variety of designs, I have even found a lead one.
the first is a mystery, the reverse looks like a spade guinea or a fraction of and it says George III but the portrait is all wrong, but it looks too good an  engraving of somebody  to be a forgery. weird but interesting.


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: Stig(The) on December 29, 2009, 08:32:43 PM
Thanks Geoff,that`s interesting,i`ve tried researching but drawn a blank so far !  ???


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 29, 2009, 08:43:26 PM
its george 111 its a gaming piece and the first one is what jeoff said you can allso get alot off toy money of victoria  :)


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 29, 2009, 08:50:41 PM
Nice id Phil,


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 29, 2009, 08:53:12 PM
if by chance its not a george 3rd gaming piece, then if u check out spink, guineas and half guineas, you will see the reverse design as shown in the above picture.

i can't read the date properly if its 1761, then theres no record in my spink, of coins with that date -- but maybe its there in the latest edition.

if it is indeed a guinea/half guinea - well done its worth hundreds

cheers

alan


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: 150aceboy on December 29, 2009, 09:10:13 PM
That was a nice unexpected Christmas present Stig, he must have felt sorry you did'nt win the oil lamp  ;D, very nice pieces mate
Ace  ;)


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 29, 2009, 09:25:11 PM
the bust is wrong to be a gold guinea this is my gaming piece hope this helps mick but do check the date mate  ;) and i think i can see the date 1701 which is qween ann  ???


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 29, 2009, 09:27:30 PM
thx phil - a lovely find - i've never seen one of these before today - now i may have seen 2!


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 29, 2009, 09:32:30 PM
ive found a few alan the old heart starts going when they come out if you look at the date on micks you can see 1701 which is qween  :-X sorry william the 111 what a dork so it makes sence when you think about it  ;)


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 29, 2009, 09:35:19 PM
if the date is 1701 then yes i'd agree with william, if its 1761, then george 3rd.

my eyes aren't that good and the date looked like 1761 ..



Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: Stig(The) on December 29, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
The date on it defo looks like 1701,so it`s a Token then Phil ?


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 29, 2009, 09:39:30 PM
yes to token


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: Stig(The) on December 29, 2009, 09:48:24 PM
Spoke to Gwyn(the farmer) on the phone & apparently they was found by builders under the floor boards during the farmhouse renovations ! He thought i might have an interest in them,so passed them on.  ;)


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 29, 2009, 09:50:54 PM
what a lovely gesture - it would be worth photographing them and giving a written report of what each one is .. then give gwyn a copy - perhaps in a thank you card . or b'day card !!

well done on having a very supportive farmer


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 29, 2009, 09:58:41 PM
1761 is george the 11 not 111 so it got to be a gaming piece very well done mick they are great and very nice for your display  ;)


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on December 29, 2009, 10:00:30 PM
i enlarged it and i think the date is 1761....i can only find one guinea with that date, but the bust is different and it has the crowned shield of Curras on the reverse.....byron....ps..according to my copy of spink (2000)......george 3rd is1760 - 1820


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 29, 2009, 10:01:34 PM
have he got a few more for me and alan  ;D ;D ;D ;D we wont say no  ;)


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: Legacy Hunter on December 29, 2009, 10:05:14 PM
that was very nice of the farmer wasnt it lovely items
debs


Title: Re: Unidentified
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 29, 2009, 10:11:45 PM
yes sorry bryon my mistake just had a look in my book to many stellas but like you said its a diff sheild  ;)


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