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Title: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 14, 2009, 01:54:59 PM
Went out with my new machine today in all that rain, to a spot I have done to death with the SE. It is a local beauty spot that used to have a railtrack running through it thats now completly overgrown.and its had its fair share of campers,picnickers etc. so the trash here is very high. Anyway I only wanted to set up the machine just to see what its like. After switching on and adjusting the various knobs I set off knowing I will only be half hour as rain was lashing down. In the half hour I was there I found a ring pull, a small aluminium tube, and a thruppenny bit. I know its not much but believe me we have done this to death with the SE and last thing I expected was a coin. really pleased with it so far cant wait to get on some ploughed with it TBH.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Roman (Ray) on November 14, 2009, 02:34:34 PM
hi both.
glad you went out to use it.
found a coin as well.
welldone to you both got to give you credit.
for going out in the rain.
good start.
ray.
im going out tommorow in the rain.
by the look of it lol.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 14, 2009, 02:41:41 PM
Cheers Ray really am impressed with it


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 14, 2009, 10:44:37 PM
Well so far theres the price difference the laser is a lot cheaper, also a lot lighter than the SE. I will be comparing these two machines over the next few weeks to get a better idea. I will say this though (in my experiance)  I did not like the SE coils  the SEf coil was far more stable, I know through expeiance the SE does go deep but at the same time u do need to swing it slow to get the best from it.I will keep you informed of my progress as Lisa and I will prob swop machines during our hunts


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on November 14, 2009, 11:20:26 PM
I think you have to give up a lot of brain power you use an Explorer
I get easily distracted when im detecting and my Exp used to bore me to tears sooooo slooooowwwwww
now ive got a faster machine Im finding again because i enjoy using it ;0)

When the Hawkeye 1st came out the advert was ,,,,,"Never underestimate the Hawkeye" i think thats very true

all the best
Phil Jones


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on November 15, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
Look forward to reading the updates with regards your experiences Paul/Lisa. The differences between any detector against a Minelab is worth reading.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Neil on November 15, 2009, 03:38:02 PM
I am also toying with a change in machine and manufacturer to keep things fresh for me so I'll be interested how you get on Paul.

I am day 13 of giving up smoking, and I need to spend the £1.5K I would spend a year on fags somewhere! ;D

My chest is already feeling better, I can taste again and always seem to have cash in my pocket now. I feel confident I am going to do it this time after 20 years of smoking!

Cheers
Neil


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on November 15, 2009, 03:57:01 PM
Neil if you'd like any support with the no smoking I could get my mate too sit by you all day. He just kept poking me repeatedly in the ribs evertime I lit up.

8 yrs + 4 mnths quit.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: detectordave on November 15, 2009, 04:01:25 PM
Good effort neil what my mate done when he give up was every time he would buy a pack of fags he put the money into a jar after about 4 months he had over a grand in it then booked a holiday for himself. Keep it up


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: beachboy (viv) on November 15, 2009, 04:02:45 PM
hi neil,i tried a few times,but found the answer,i put the money in a jar and counted it every week, which enabled me to by my first video and never smoked again 27 yrs.(viv)


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Neil on November 15, 2009, 04:32:06 PM
Thanks for the support lads. Its a funny thing tobacco - so bloody addictive - it would never be legalised now if it had just been discovered.

Its also interesting that you all remember how long ago you gave up!

Sorry to highjack the thread with my smoking issues! ;D

Money will be going on a new machine I think

Neil


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 15, 2009, 09:30:16 PM
Got out today for the first real time with the laser. Got to say took a bit of time getting used to there being no  threshold hum, unlike the Se where u got the hum all the time. So half the time i was switching to AM  ( where there is a threshold hum) just to make sure it was on lol. Anyway thought Id start by digging  an iron signal just to see, the screen said iron and sure enough it was iron, then I had a nice signal  between 56 and 66 and a nice solid bar on the screen, depth sid 4 "  I dug up a small musket ball. Ok not a great find but the depth was spot on and the audio/screen agreed with each other so I knew I was on the right track. Anyway to cut this short I ended up with 13 musket balls , a button (6") and a buckle. what I did notice though was I picked up a few "hot rocks" the audio was good the screen jumped a bit from high 70s down to 0. I had to dig them as im used to deep signals on the SE showing up like that. I have taken the 3 hotrocks home with me to experiment with them a bit. Lisa meanwhile found 6 musketballs a button and what looks to me like a clasp, as there seems to be leather on it. I found the laser very light and easy to use and cant wait to try it out on ploughed.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 19, 2009, 07:22:57 PM
Ok managed to set out for 2 hrs today and went back to my usual place. I wanted to get to know this machine better so perfect oppurtunity. After switching on setting the threshold to max and sense at 10 off I went.  Loads of signals everywhere mostly iron so dug them up to check sure enough it was. I ended up with 13 ringpulls the older type all these fell between 55/66 on the screen and depth showed 4" which was pretty much bang on. I also had 5 halfpenny coins 3 were decimal the others were 1933 and 1921 the depth again played its part as it was showing between 6 and 7". Getting more familiar with the hawk now and must say so far Im well pleased with it. When u realise how trashy this place is you will understand how well it done to pull 5 coins. Lisa used the SE and all she managed was a new 10p piece. In fact we are even thinking of selling the SE and getting another hawkeye its that good.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: falcon. on November 19, 2009, 08:53:52 PM
 :D sounds u done well to find 5 coins on trashy site and u are getting better at it with ur new machine ;D im hopping mine will turn up tommrow so i can have a bash with it  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 19, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
Dont think u will be dissapointed m8


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 01:38:54 PM
Well against our better judgement we went out for an hour to another spot that I know ,its onlt 10 mins from the house so braved the rain. Anyway  a few signals all reading 55 and 3" deep I guessed were ring pulls then I hit a signal at 5" and decided to dig it and out popped a gold ring. At the moment I cant fault this machine its going great


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Roman (Ray) on November 21, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
hi paul=lisa.
ive just come in from the rain too guys.
i had nice morning detecting i had thirteen coins.
welldone on the gold ring.now i know its good on gold.
keep them comeing.
ray


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: bigjase on November 21, 2009, 02:47:32 PM
The hawkeye sounds like a cracking detector guys


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: falcon. on November 21, 2009, 03:39:46 PM
 :D well done on finding a gold ring ;D ;D


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 04:40:12 PM
Cheers guys, well chuffed with it


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on November 21, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
Ok , Paul/Lisa  explain the threshold on the hawkeye , because when I was looking at Rays Hawkye with him yesterday it had threshold hum on it.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: outlaw on November 21, 2009, 05:02:22 PM
How does this Laser perform on freshly ploughed ground, as minelabs hate freshly turned ground.


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 05:22:31 PM
Well I was always under the impression that u should have a steady hum on the threashold and this is what puzzled me with the hawkeye as i was told set the threshold to max. But I posted this on another forum and they told me the same set it high (bit like gain on the minelab) increases the audio. I havnt been on ploughed yet with it but I think it will be very good as you not after depth but speed , saying that i found the SE good on ploughed as long as its set right and keep the coil close to the ground. (biggest mistake i made with the SE was having sense to high) no need for it its deep enough in auto and then later if u aint getting much then crank it up. (these are just my opinions of course). trying to put a pic upof the ring cant see the blydi hallmark tidy (nows a good time to mention that usb microscope please Santa)


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
think ive sussed it


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on November 21, 2009, 05:27:29 PM
With my DFX (and i know its not the same with all machines) Threshold should be set as low as what is still audiable. This it to allow fainter signals to 'break through' the threshold...must be different with different machines


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
Same for the EX11 and the SE but what ive been told for the hawkeye is to max it thats why i couldnt get my head round it I shall look again at the website and post it


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 05:35:15 PM
By setting the threshold high while in the discrim mode, it will boost the strength of the audio on the weaker signals you may get on small or deep targets, this is known as "super tuning"  This is the answer I had. If you set it to a fine hum then u get a sense of depth as the audio would be fainter for deeper targets so its like the gain on the ex models basically


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: beachboy (viv) on November 21, 2009, 07:23:15 PM
Paul/Lisa,well done that looks really nice do you think it has some age about it or its modern,you sound as if you won't miss your minelab.(Viv)


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 21, 2009, 07:54:34 PM
Hi Viv, I dont think its old but I am going to try and get a better look at the hallmark cant find my magnifying glass. Funny you should say that about the SE, we going on a beach tomorrow and Lisa wants the hawkeye lol, oh well im not complainging lol


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on November 29, 2009, 09:47:15 AM
Went out yesterday on a ploughed site with plenty of promise. Have to say I was looking forward to this but in the end very dissapointed, I struggled with the laser somehow dont know if it was interference from other machines but hadnt experianced it before there was a lot of iron in the field and i had to turn the sense down to quieten it a bit. Anyway not much for me in the way of coins just one farthing really bad condition and a few buttons.Lisa with the SE found a rose farthing again in bad condition and a few buttons also so she done well considering there were about 50 detecorists i dont think 7 coins were found between them. Pity really as it did look very promising. Im still enjoying comparing the two machines though .


Title: Re: Laser Hawkeye
Post by: Tinman (paul/Lisa) on January 17, 2010, 07:48:33 PM
We went out today for an hour Lisa has the laser now as I have the T2, she,s getting used to the signals now and found 7 decimal coins in one hole she also found a farthing, it may not sound impressive but if you saw where we were then you would understand. I had 4 coins with the T2 one was a silver 3p, got to say the silver jumps out with the T2 just wish there was more there


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