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Title: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 05, 2009, 09:24:07 PM
a few old cap badges i found a few yrs ago


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 05, 2009, 09:33:59 PM
First one is The Scotch Brigade I believe. Later became the 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers making that cap badge before 1881.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 05, 2009, 09:35:37 PM
The third one is The Royal Welch Fusiliers, with the top broken off methinks.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 05, 2009, 09:39:08 PM
i should have said i think the last
1 is a gerkas belt buckle thanks


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 05, 2009, 09:49:09 PM
Three scimitars? Could be an Essex regiment? Get my books out tomorrow and look em up. Could be gurkha but don't ring no bells. Second one looks like army medical but I'll have a good look for em tomorrow. Quite a few like the 2nd one.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on July 05, 2009, 11:39:06 PM
a great collection of cap badges steve....well done.....byron


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: hedgehog on July 06, 2009, 06:04:09 AM
A nice little collection again Steve, good i.d.'s Jon.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Gadget(Ian) on July 06, 2009, 06:10:28 AM
Nice looking badges there steve havent found or seen any of them before.well done mate.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 06, 2009, 10:52:14 AM
Thanks jonola id be very greatfull


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 07, 2009, 01:46:06 PM
Hope these pics are a bit better for u jonola i
increased the size


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: U.K. Brian on July 07, 2009, 03:41:06 PM
Second down looks like an early Royal Army Service Corps. I love badges !





Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 07, 2009, 03:46:19 PM
Thank bri ;D


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: waltonbasinman on July 07, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
I love badges as well. Good finds Steve and Jon I did not know you were such a whizz with the Militaria Nice ID,s good Sir.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 07, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
Victorian armies are my speciality especially the Anglo Zulu war but studied history at Uni many years ago. Also I am ex army and have quite a few contacts who are into the history of regiments big time. Should be able to get a positive I.D. on the other two on my next day off. There are a couple VERY similar but I'm not sticking my neck out yet  ;) Needed better quality pics and now I have them I can be more sure.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 07, 2009, 06:34:30 PM
Second  one is (Royal) Army Service Corps (George 5th version). I am having doubts as to whether the one remaining unidentified badge is British. Three crescent moons, a lion and an eagle do not appear on any British cap badge that I can trace.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: waltonbasinman on July 07, 2009, 06:36:02 PM
Well done to you Jon. Be warned you might have a few PM,s in the next few weeks.  :D


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 07, 2009, 06:38:35 PM
No probs  ;)


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 07, 2009, 07:06:58 PM
Have looked at many and varied Gurkha cap badges, stable belts, belt buckles and think you may have been misled by whoever told you it was from that regiment. Can't find anything resembling it. It seems to have STRENGTH on the right hand side. Any lettering on the left?


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 07, 2009, 10:17:20 PM
No sorry there is no lettering on the left


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 10, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
Asked around a few people I know. Had a few answers.One of the gentlemen who replied is a curator of an army museum and others are well versed in army paraphenalia. no one seems convinced the crescent , eagle and lion badge is British.Here are a couple of replies;

I've looked at this badge long and hard, and I have reached a conclusion.

The Lion of Britain; the Eagle of 2nd Empire France & the device of the Ottoman Empire. I wonder if the badge is missing the crown of the Kingdom of Sardinia. The allies against Russia in the Crimean War.

Could the legend read Unity in/is Strength?



1517 - 1844 the Ottoman Empire used three crescents in their flag

Still looking for something definite.
JON


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 10, 2009, 06:31:30 PM
(Royal) Army Service Corps (George 5th Version)
Before and after shots  ;)


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 10, 2009, 06:38:23 PM
Scotch Brigade I think is 1874 - 1881 pattern.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 10, 2009, 06:44:35 PM
Royal Welch Fusiliers with an undamaged top.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 10, 2009, 09:35:19 PM
Thanks a lot jonola you have been a lot of help
 ;D


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 11, 2009, 08:08:25 AM
Have you any idea where you found the "Ghurka" buckle Steve?


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: waltonbasinman on July 11, 2009, 08:52:18 AM
Jon excellent work fella. I do like these military badges and they have been well Id,d by your good self. Well done again mate.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 11, 2009, 09:02:25 AM
Cheers Paul. I love the old cap badges. I want a few old Shako plates next though. Find locations are good too. I find the I.D. ing as much fun as the finding to be honest.


Title: Re: a few old cap badges
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on July 11, 2009, 07:10:34 PM
Jonola ive sent you a personal


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