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Title: Hammered Gold
Post by: jaydogg on June 11, 2018, 04:45:58 PM
Found this a while ago, my first hammered gold coin (I’ve only been waiting fifteen years). It is an Edward III half noble; I believe it to be pre treaty but not 100%. I am being lazy but perhaps one of the usual numismatist suspects on here can offer a more detailed id? Enjoy folks.


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: jaydogg on June 11, 2018, 04:46:27 PM
Otherside


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: Garrettace150 on June 11, 2018, 06:26:00 PM
Wow ! Well done, was it worth the wait ?


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: Val Beechey on June 11, 2018, 08:01:23 PM
You bet your sweet life it’s worth waiting for.

Absolutely worth the wait jaydogg. Once in a lifetime ts a wonder you didn’t keel over when you saw it.
Congratulations  ;D


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: probono on June 11, 2018, 09:27:38 PM
Could you put some images with more coin and less background up please? I've saved them, but the pertinent details are a bit pixelated.

I found these hard to work out clearly when I had to - crucial details are things like what is at the corners of the central panel on the reverse - I can't see that clearly with these images.

I'm also trying to make sense of the obverse legend (I can match the reverse legend fine)  - it seems to end in Hyb - which suggests perhaps either transitional treaty or even (although these hould end in AQT) the treaty period - especially with the annulet before EDWARD - although this can happen in Pre-treaty too.


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: probono on June 11, 2018, 09:39:06 PM
I've uploaded one I have currently - I'll see if I can find a decent image of the one I found too for comparison.

This one I believe is pre-treaty series E (broken letters both sides).

Apologize for the poor colour - if I knew where my tablet was (or it was daylight) I'd get some better images......


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: probono on June 11, 2018, 09:57:40 PM
Here's the one I found with soil - it's in the museum, so I haven't got any better photos of it really (too much camera shake).

It's a treaty period - and you can see on the obverse the legend ends with AQT.


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: probono on June 11, 2018, 10:38:18 PM
I knew there were some better pictures

(Sorry to hijack your post - these were to illustrate different types) - I think your central panel is a different shape from these two examples.


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: Neil on June 12, 2018, 07:56:05 AM
wow Chaps! some quality finds there.

Jaydogg make sure it comes with you next time you visit mate.

Cheers
Neil


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: jaydogg on June 12, 2018, 03:57:04 PM
Ok here we go


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: jaydogg on June 12, 2018, 03:57:32 PM
Again


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: probono on June 12, 2018, 10:01:28 PM
Ok, it's treaty period - it's almost the same as the last one I posted - yours has an annulet rather than a saltire like mine :)

Yours is North 1239 (mine is North 1238)

obv: EDWARD DEI G REX ANGL D HYB Z AQT annulet before Edward (the AQ / T is above the king's head).

London, Spink 1503, dating to 1361-9

Nice coin :)


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: probono on June 12, 2018, 10:03:24 PM
I forgot to say that if you look closely at the lower half of your reverse, you can see lines running from the points of the arches towards the centre of the coin - there are some on my example too - I think that they are to help lay out the coin properly - nice detail


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: jaydogg on June 13, 2018, 09:05:17 PM
Ok that's great. Thanks for the effort on the id.


Title: Re: Hammered Gold
Post by: nonker10 on June 14, 2018, 06:27:17 PM
wow probono you know your stuff i can see those lines  ;) ;) ;)


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