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Title: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: BeachHunter101 on May 18, 2018, 10:50:09 AM
Could this be a medieval harness ring? it's quite heavy I know a couple of medieval finds have been found on the same field. Also found a shilling dated 1947, 1940 halfpenny and rolled up lead  :)


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: wittsy1 on May 18, 2018, 12:55:04 PM
Nice few finds. I got a few of them rings and kept them simply because I don't know what they are.


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: Val Beechey on May 18, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
Love those ship halpennies and  that’s in good condition. Poor old shilling, it’s seen some hard times.
Anyone’s guess what the ring was for. It’s definately older than usual and hammered flat on the sides. That’s unusual. Worth keeping.


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: BeachHunter101 on May 19, 2018, 06:43:21 PM
Thank you Val and wittsy  ;D Yes the shilling has seen better days :) The rings are a mystery for sure  8)


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: Val Beechey on May 19, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
Hi Beachhunter. I had something spinning around at the back of my mind when I answered your post. It suddenly came back to me a few minuets ago.
Do a google search for ‘Ring Money’ you may find it interesting. ;D

I’ve just seen something else worth looking into. A Medieval ring brooch, minus the pin. Just seen one like yours with flat sides and loop fitted pin.

Looks like you might have something for the FLO


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: BeachHunter101 on May 23, 2018, 03:28:56 PM
Sorry for the late reply Val, yes it does look like ring money :) and yes it does also look like a medieval ring brooch. How interesting ;D  Maybe i'll take it to the museum. How will i contact the FLO would it be through email? thank you  ;D


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: Val Beechey on May 23, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
Don’t know what area your in but if you search

www.finds.org.uk (http://www.finds.org.uk)     Takes you to The Portable Antiquities Scheme

First page,,,,,,contacts. Lists every FLO in the country complete with phone numbers and e.mail addresses.
Phone is usualy the safest but e.mail usualy works. Include pics if you can and ask if they’re interested.

Val


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: The Doc on May 24, 2018, 11:14:25 AM
This one is not a ring brooch.

This type of roughly finished copper alloy ring is very common, and likely to have many uses as suspension rings, harness fittings etc.

These seem to date from medieval onwards. The idea that they are ring money I think is largely a fantasy propagated by sellers wishing to palm off old 'junk' finds as something valuable.

This summary is useful:

https://finds.org.uk/counties/findsrecordingguides/rings/


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on May 24, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
I have quite a few in my collection.  I found quite a few around old rabbit warrens. (Rabbit farms from 12th -early 20th century )
Most likely the old slip rings off rabbiting snares / nets.
The flat sided design is found all over the country and probably 16th to 18th century.
Nice to find them though.


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: Greg on May 24, 2018, 06:16:11 PM
I have also found very similar rings, and now I have been taken back to my 60’s ferreting days, I think you’ve got it spot on Ian.


Title: Re: A couple of hours out on a new permission harness ring?
Post by: BeachHunter101 on May 25, 2018, 08:15:42 PM
Thanks all for the brilliant information ;D 8)


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