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Title: Equinox
Post by: celticspikey on March 23, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
 I just had another E Mail from LP (Pete) re my interest in the Equinox......I have told LP I no longer want to be on their list for the machine ......Basically the promotion of this machine was great, as for the way they have released the machine to our dealers it's a joke.

Sort your self out Minelab there's plenty of other Detectorists waiting......

This has nothing to do with LP who provides a great service and I have and will continue to support....

Over and out....  ;)


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: probono on March 24, 2018, 09:59:54 AM
I keep looking - I'm still quite interested in getting an Equinox - even if it is as a second machine for when people insist on 'having a go at metal detecting', but there's no stock and no info on when the stock is available.

There are a few Equinox 600 available, but it is the higher frequencies that interested me on the 800.......


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: celticspikey on March 24, 2018, 06:33:45 PM
Hi Roland yeh I was offered a 600 but I too was I interested in the higher frequency range...not that impressed with some of the videos on u tube, still I reckon the market will have a few for sale in the not to distant future... ;D 14 hrs decorating yesterday and 9hrs today.. Tomorrow of to a rally in Dorchester and well deserved if I say so myself lol..


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: nobby on March 24, 2018, 07:14:49 PM
I 've just seen a review on YouTube of the equinox.....the recovery looks remarkable.....will be an interesting one  :)


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Napoleon on March 24, 2018, 11:29:23 PM
Good reviews so far but dont like the arm rest make that detector look like a ace 250 so hope they will try to update the design a little and i will probably get one but for now its Non merci. ;D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: probono on March 25, 2018, 07:24:32 PM
Hi Roland yeh I was offered a 600 but I too was I interested in the higher frequency range...not that impressed with some of the videos on u tube, still I reckon the market will have a few for sale in the not to distant future... ;D 14 hrs decorating yesterday and 9hrs today.. Tomorrow of to a rally in Dorchester and well deserved if I say so myself lol..

Given that that CTX and ETRAC are still seen as the high end machines, I'll of course be keeping my ETRAC - I don't know if others agree, but someone told me that the CTX is like an ETRAC but in colour and with GPS - so I suppose it depends on whether I want that :)

As to the Equinox I'd certainly be interested to see how it performs on my permission - there are areas of significant mineralisation (too many nails and iron) and other areas which used to be good but are now empty. I'd be interested in any machine that brought those fields to life again.

I've tried so far : SE Pro, ETRAC (both with standard and ultimate coils), Deus (9" coil), T2, F75, Whites Dual Master PI, C Scope,Makro Racer II, Golden Mask 1+, 3+ and 4 Pro, Garrett Ace 150.

So for me the Equinox with it's high frequencies might be better for smaller surface targets or maybe gold objects -  I'm slightly concerned I've never found a precious metal ring of any sort (apart from by eye on the pavement).

I'd be interested when bigger coils come out for it too.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: JBM on April 12, 2018, 07:57:20 PM
Cant understand the UK shortage of Equinox, when Malaysia, USA and now China have surplus machines at a price.?


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Napoleon on April 13, 2018, 08:55:01 AM
And France mate just come back  and la boutique du fouilleur  they have loads in stock  when i mean loads they are everywhere .


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 13, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
That's interesting,  I've just emailed them to see if they will ship to the UK,
I'll let you know the reply.
Thanks for the heads up.
D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 13, 2018, 05:05:04 PM
Cant understand the UK shortage of Equinox, when Malaysia, USA and now China have surplus machines at a price.?
I rang them today and they have a 4 week waiting list also.
D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: JBM on April 13, 2018, 05:28:57 PM
Thanks rainyday, I presume that was the French supplier not the Chinese ebay ones. :)  


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 13, 2018, 07:03:48 PM
Yes the french one.
D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: JBM on April 13, 2018, 10:19:40 PM
The Chinese seller as suddenly gone from e-bay UK. ;)  Jerry.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 20, 2018, 05:39:17 PM
Had a call today from pepsi piro to say my machine was in, should be with me by Monday,
Must say it made my weekend :)
I was only on the list about 4 weeks


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: probono on April 20, 2018, 08:35:18 PM
Had a call today from pepsi piro to say my machine was in, should be with me by Monday,
Must say it made my weekend :)
I was only on the list about 4 weeks


I did wonder which dealer I might go with - only problem is have to pay for my car first :)

Let us know how it goes - I'm interested for it's fast response time in trashy ground and it's better detection of gold than the usual Minelabs.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 21, 2018, 09:07:21 AM
Will do, I know what you mean about the gold thing, not found any with the safari. Plenty if silver but no gold
.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 26, 2018, 10:19:55 AM
Got the equinox and magaged to get out with it a coupe of times, obviously still learning it. Still digging a lot of iron tho as deep iron will come thru clear as a bell as a good signal.
Tried altering the iron mask but still haven’t found a way yet on how to discriminate it .
Any advise would help please.
Thanks
D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Mungo on April 27, 2018, 07:02:20 AM
our m8 sid has a video on youtube about discriminating iron out on the equinox .......engalndshistory. might help..


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 27, 2018, 08:40:36 AM
Many thanks


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: outlaw on April 28, 2018, 06:29:06 AM
sign up on mlo forum everything u need to know is on there !   ;)


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: rainyday on April 28, 2018, 09:12:06 AM
OK thanks, I'll take a look
D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Andre on April 30, 2018, 06:58:50 AM
Looks like an interesting machine but I don’t understand all the hype,it’s like the holy grail of detectors and minelab I’ve heard that their costumer service isn’t great.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Val Beechey on April 30, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
Some iron just will not be ignored, by machine or you, if you don’t want to risk loosing a good dig.
I remember our old friend Geoff trying to explain to us mortals why this happened. As far as I can remember is was along the lines of old iron in the ground degrading over time. As that happens the iron oxidises and flakes and the chemical composition changes so you get a different signal. Now I may have turn his explanation inside out, forgive me if I have, but there by the laws of physics is what and why.
I took my Nox 600 to a field I’ve been to many times with other machines. A field I’ve always thought I should find something in but never have and yesterday was no different. I must conclude I’m in the wrong field  ::)
It was an interesting outing from a learning point of view. The Nox in Field 1 & 2, Park 1 & 2 will still pick up iron. Just for a giggle I thought what about All Metal. Great. A quick press of the button and instantly you get a lovely bass tone so you know what’s there.
The biggest problem to get over, I found, is the numbers that come up. Numbers that with previous Minelabs we would dig on the Nox seem to be mainly junk. Like 18 being iron ! :o
Will be interesting to go somewhere else, where I might find a keeper and see how it reacts. Easy to use machine, big learning curve. The Blue Tooth is great by the way. Ear pods much more comfy than bulky ear muffs. The ones with the package look like fair-ground el-cheapos.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: probono on April 30, 2018, 06:21:24 PM
Do you find it a nice light machine?

I'm interested in one of these because of the recovery times - I've got one site where most signals are in the top inch - it's to full of iron and black soil that whatever machine I use it pings all the time -although I've had two hammered last year from it, plus some 400 buttons or so. I went there on Sunday (farmer has just ploughed it) and pulled out a piece of iron plate over a foot long - so the Nox's apparent recovery is of interest to me (I'm also using too big a coil on my ETRAC, but I know that!).


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Val Beechey on April 30, 2018, 09:08:14 PM
It does what it says on the box. I’m well impressed. I set up a test run at home with different coins and a couple of other bits in between, brass, stainless steel etc.
All in a line, like on YouTube, with just a few inches between them.
It was a bit like a magic trick. Ping, ping, ping, pong, ping, ping, pong. John was fascinated and watched in awe. The faster I swung the faster the sounds.
The numbers rolled up and down that fast I couldn’t keep up with them. Then I noted the number on the £2 coin and stoped as soon as it came up, pressed the pin point and zero’d in on it. I was also impressed how it held the number while the pin point was on ignoring the other objects. It did the same in the field yesterday so no fluke.
So far I’m very impressed in general. Except for the ear phones. They really are awfull but I’d already made up my mind to go wireless before ordered, no transmitter needed. After finding out that the 600 uses all 5 frequencies in auto I wonder why so many are buying the 800 and spending another £200 just so they can detect solely in 2 other frequencies. It isn’t as if there’s that much gold lying around !
Go on get one ordered, you know you want to  ;D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: probono on April 30, 2018, 11:35:18 PM
It does what it says on the box. I’m well impressed. I set up a test run at home with different coins and a couple of other bits in between, brass, stainless steel etc.
All in a line, like on YouTube, with just a few inches between them.
It was a bit like a magic trick. Ping, ping, ping, pong, ping, ping, pong. John was fascinated and watched in awe. The faster I swung the faster the sounds.
The numbers rolled up and down that fast I couldn’t keep up with them. Then I noted the number on the £2 coin and stoped as soon as it came up, pressed the pin point and zero’d in on it. I was also impressed how it held the number while the pin point was on ignoring the other objects. It did the same in the field yesterday so no fluke.
So far I’m very impressed in general. Except for the ear phones. They really are awfull but I’d already made up my mind to go wireless before ordered, no transmitter needed. After finding out that the 600 uses all 5 frequencies in auto I wonder why so many are buying the 800 and spending another £200 just so they can detect solely in 2 other frequencies. It isn’t as if there’s that much gold lying around !
Go on get one ordered, you know you want to  ;D


I do want to buy one, but I also have to pay for my car :( - that's in June, so I'm not meant to spend any money until that's paid off :)

I did think about the 600, but having found some gold, I'm interested to see if there was any other that I missed - and I've never found a gold (or indeed a silver) ring. Don't really care about the wireless bit......


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: bodybuilder27 on June 13, 2018, 03:42:22 PM
the arm rest make that detector look like a ace 250 so hope they will try to update the design a little and i will probably get one but for now its Non merci. ;D

OMG...I've just read the most hilarious post ever. ;D

Ace 250? ;D

Yeah, I'm sure if you write a strongly worded letter to Minelab, they would call an emergency meeting with the whole design team and come up with a non-ace 250 looking arm rest, Just for you....lol. ::)

Got my Equinox from LP Detecting after being on waiting list and love it so much...Deus = sold!!

Equinox....DANG! I love it.
Matt


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Val Beechey on June 13, 2018, 08:12:49 PM
As time goes by it’s amazing what you finally cotton onto with a new detector.
A simple remark and things make sense. The NOX has an Iron Bias setting. Easy to use from the Pre-Set menu and boy does it make a difference. Also pre-Set plus a touch of a button and you’re in All Metal. Now that just about clinches the iron problem.
The advanced settings are all easy to use in program. No need to come out, adjust and go back in. Also changing to a single frequency, one press, plus or minus, in program, and you’re in 5, 10 or 15 kh.
Big problem I have at the moment is remembering all the things you can do.
Last outing iron virtually ceased to exist. I only dug one small piece.
The more I use this detector the more I like it. 
Probono would love the Recovery Speed adjustment. Just the job for realy junky fields. Best hurry up and get the car paid for  ::)


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: probono on June 13, 2018, 09:18:04 PM
As time goes by it’s amazing what you finally cotton onto with a new detector.
A simple remark and things make sense. The NOX has an Iron Bias setting. Easy to use from the Pre-Set menu and boy does it make a difference. Also pre-Set plus a touch of a button and you’re in All Metal. Now that just about clinches the iron problem.
The advanced settings are all easy to use in program. No need to come out, adjust and go back in. Also changing to a single frequency, one press, plus or minus, in program, and you’re in 5, 10 or 15 kh.
Big problem I have at the moment is remembering all the things you can do.
Last outing iron virtually ceased to exist. I only dug one small piece.
The more I use this detector the more I like it. 
Probono would love the Recovery Speed adjustment. Just the job for realy junky fields. Best hurry up and get the car paid for  ::)

Well car was paid for this week, but then I bought a second hand CTX 3030 last week.......two detectors in a month would be a bit greedy :) I'm still tempted though - the recovery speed between junky targets (and the different frequencies) are some of the things I'm interested in :)

I used the CTX on the weekend - I took the arm strap off because I don't use them on anything else, and I just found it a bit unbalanced - I'll have to put the arm strap back on me thinks.....


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: JBM on June 14, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
One drawback with Minelab is the weight factor.

I purchase my first one in 1988, but called it a day when the lightweight machines hit the market place.

My finds rate never really changed from those days, but even as an Octogenarian I can still keep going without a Harness.

All thanks to modern day technology. ;) :)

Happy Hunting,

Jerry.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Val Beechey on June 14, 2018, 04:10:01 PM
You put me to shame Jerry.
I had to call it a day with my beautiful Safari after a 3 month lay-off.
I think they’ve done us proud with the Equinox. It ticks all the boxes, especially for some of us older hopefuls.
Stay well, and keep swinging.  ;D


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Andre on June 24, 2018, 07:53:39 AM
I Val,I’m thinking on buying a new detector,I think the one I’ve got now doesn’t work for me,I need multi frequencies and better separation and recovery speeds,god knows what stuff I’ve been living behind.
A mate of mine lend me a Deus for a fortnight and honest the tones drive me crazy,can’t get used to them plus I find the shaft to flimsy.
I’m divided in between the makro multikruizer and the nox 800.
The kruizer has got great reviews and the price is very good for what you get.The nox has Minelab on the name but I’ve heard that they don’t do many after market coils so the Minelab ones can be expensive.
Also don’t know about the costumer service.I would buy a secondhand etrac if they weren’t so heavy.i detect for several hours every time I go hunting.
Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Val Beechey on June 24, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Hi Andre.  Big big questions and I’m not realy qualified to answer any of them I can only speak of my Equinox 600.
Dragonsbreath has a Multi Kruizer.  He seems very happy with it and would willingly give you his opinion of it. Not one I’ve used, so can’t help with that one.
The Equinox 800 . well, there you have a completely different beast. I can only quote from the discussions I’ve seen somewhere else. It’s definately not a switch on and go machine. It’s complicated to get used to, till the penny drops, so to speak. But once you get to grips with what it is capable of, you probably won’t ever want to use anything else. In many ways the two Equinenox’s are the same, though the 800, of course has more features. I’ll send you a P.M. relating to those.
My 600, as already said, is almost the same and it took my a while to sort out how to get the correct settings for U.K. detecting and get rid of ‘the iron problem’ easy, once you know how but a lot for my old brain to cope with. I think the settings have been well sorted now for both machines. (We could do with a user manual specially for the U.K.) the build quality has been critisized and one or two have had minor problems. As there’s still a waiting list, if you should be unlucky enough to have a problem, you can’t just send it back and get a replacement next day. Extra coils is a complaint as well. There aren’t any, not over here. I believe two different ones are available in the USA. Extremely expensive ! Worth mentioning, the Equinox has a built in transmitter. No problem with Bluetooth if you want pods.
The Deus still seems to be a main contender. I had one but never realy got on with it. Like you I hated the tones. Although I have to admit I found some good things with it. The initial cost is, of course, much higher than either the Kruizer or the Equinox but there are extra coils available. Once again, very expensive.
You could really do with a trial run on each machine before you commit but not easy to organise.
Old saying, You pays your money, you takes you’re chance. If you think you’d be OK with the technology I’d say the Equinox but I’m biased  ::)


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: dragonsbreath(Paul) on June 24, 2018, 05:06:25 PM
The only thing i will add is the kruzer multi  does not have multi frequencies but does have a choice of three individual frequencies 5/14/19 khz
Whereas the Nox does have a true multi frequency mode.


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: nobby on June 24, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
The only thing i will add is the kruzer multi  does not have multi frequencies but does have a choice of three individual frequencies 5/14/19 khz
Whereas the Nox does have a true multi frequency mode.
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Which is what if you want if you ever beach detect ;)


Title: Re: Equinox
Post by: Val Beechey on June 24, 2018, 06:18:38 PM
I have no doubts at all about the ability of the Nox on the beach. However, it won’t detect the goodies at 2 to 3ft which is what I was faced with last week. But, it brings me to something I forgot to mention above.
The pin pointer. It’s really great. Once you’ve locked onto a target number, pressed the pointer button, it holds that number til you tell it o.k. And go back to the program. It totally ignores any other targets and rubbish.
The recovery speed. Adjustable. The swing speed needs to be adjusted to go with a higher setting, i.e. fast swing, higher number. Amazing, it actually works.


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