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Title: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Resurgam on February 20, 2018, 08:50:29 AM
                                   I recovered this little item from about four inches deep in sand, grit, and shingle. I initially thought it to be what was left of a bottle top. It is wafer thin, about the size of an old penny, totally blank on one side, but the other side appears to have a seated figure with a shield (or wheel) resting close to the left knee. It has the look, feel, and sound of lead but I will do an sg on it today and also do some accurate measurements..

                                  Perhaps it's that old artist nature playing tricks with a bit of beach scrap?


                                            All help in putting an id on this item will be greatly appreciated.

                          Chris :).



                                


Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Neil on February 20, 2018, 08:55:53 AM
Looks like the reverse of a Georgian half penny (depending on size).


Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Resurgam on February 20, 2018, 10:54:20 AM
                     The item is in deed very similar in diamiter to a George III halfpenny but the scale of the figure appears to be totally different.
It is not made from copper, or bronze, but a white metal that is totally unresponsive to the old spit and aluminium foil test. Initially I would say that it
is made of lead but haven't yet done a sg test on it.



 


Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: probono on February 21, 2018, 01:25:29 PM
It's not a tin halfpenny?


Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Resurgam on February 21, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
                                I didn't even realise that there was such a thing as a tin halfpenny but then again I didn't know that some coins were actually minted in pewter. Despite Googling around and surfing the net I am unable to find a Britannia to match the figure on this item. The shield (if it is a shield) rests just in front of the left knee and not at the left elbow or buttok.

                               I keep thinking that I can possibly see some letters on the "shield" but will need to take a better photograph to check that out.

                                              Chris


Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Resurgam on April 06, 2018, 09:18:36 PM
Well,
          I eventually got round to doing an sg on the item and it came out as 7.0.  Allowing for scale and technique discrepancies I recon the closest and most likely metal would be tin or zinc. If tin, what sort of date could be put to it?



Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Val Beechey on April 06, 2018, 09:36:54 PM
Chris, are you sure it’s not a button? The shape around the edge seems to be scalloped. Trick of the camera or real?


Title: Re: Coin, counterfeit, seal, or bottle top?
Post by: Resurgam on April 06, 2018, 09:56:20 PM
You are right Val; it is not a trick of the camera but I had thought that the slight scalloping was perhaps due to the way that time and tides had worn it.


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