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Title: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Pablo on February 03, 2018, 09:57:16 AM Please help me with these coins. They look genuine to me but I might be wrong. Bought them on ebay. Seller claiming they were found 30 years ago by father.
In the lot I can see gold stater- what tribe? Wodan sceatta - what type? And saxon penny? (https://imageshack.com/a/img922/9720/zAzFJI.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/a/img922/2699/gTIfSf.jpg) Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: jtalbot0001 on February 03, 2018, 10:26:17 AM Something tells me the Saxon coins aren't quite right, to me they look like possible forgeries - the Wodan Head especially. See what others say about them. The Lizzy, G.III and Stater look good.
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Dale on February 03, 2018, 10:34:02 AM Interesting lot, if the stater was found in the UK it would have been imported from Gaul modern day France it's a Gallo belgic type. Can you put up some better photos of it.
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Pablo on February 03, 2018, 10:52:48 AM I can't post better pictures because I don't have them yet. They were posted today.
Wodan head looks suspicious like modern day replica. I've seen many types of Wodan sceatta but never like this one that's why I'm asking. ??? Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: celticspikey on February 03, 2018, 11:00:09 AM A very cleverly put together lot in my oppinion, with a good range of dates. The silvers are very similar in patination, as for being found 30 years ago, I've heard that lots of times lol. The Celtic looks good but fakes are, if just one of these coins are suspect and doesn't look rite then the rest won't be rite either. Put up another picture of Celtic so Dale can look again.
I think you can work out my oppinion......need to handle lots like these to be 100% The top rite looks genuine at least... Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Pablo on February 03, 2018, 11:14:01 AM Wodan coin is probably genuine. Found this website and there is the same coin.
http://www.collector-antiquities.com/mystery-artifacts/what-is-this-section-5/what-is-this-section-5-page-2/what-is-this-section-5-page-3/what-is-this-section-5-page-4/what-is-this-section-5-page-5/what-is-this-section-5-page-6/what-is-this-section-5-page-7.html (http://www.collector-antiquities.com/mystery-artifacts/what-is-this-section-5/what-is-this-section-5-page-2/what-is-this-section-5-page-3/what-is-this-section-5-page-4/what-is-this-section-5-page-5/what-is-this-section-5-page-6/what-is-this-section-5-page-7.html) (https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4003/bJhvdv.jpg) Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: jtalbot0001 on February 03, 2018, 01:28:13 PM Hi Pablo, The site you found, and the picture showing the Wodan Head coins, I can't quite believe your coin is struck off center (9 o'clock) and the example you just shown is so similar (what I mean is its been struck (made) by the same person/Die), I know its not the same, but I still have doubt, but its just an opinion.
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: probono on February 03, 2018, 04:03:49 PM Just because you see a coin for identification in a magazine, doesn't make it (or yours) genuine.
For instance - the BM will identify something for you, but will not tell you if it is genuine or not (personal experience). In hand I would be able to tell for most of the coins whether they were genuine or not. My guess / feeling is that the sceat and penny are fake. The bullhead could be fine - the stater looks really nice - but then many of them (fake or otherwise) do - The button thing is genuine enough. I'm always skeptical about any 'these were found by my father stories'. 99% are just downright fraudulent. Generally if there are a number of fakes in a lot like this, it would point to all the 'nice' coins being fake - it would at least cast significant doubt on them. Could you tell us the seller? How much feedback do they have? Do they normally sell coins? How new a seller are they? These are some of the things I ask before I make a judgement to buy from someone new on eBay. Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Pablo on February 03, 2018, 05:04:53 PM Seller have over 200 feedbacks with no coin selling history. Coins looks good to be true I know but who knows I will upload more pictures when I get them.
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: dingdong on February 04, 2018, 12:37:33 AM Gotta say guys.??never bought coins..?always preferred to take my chances on finding (Detecting) them.
Good hunting..👍 Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Dale on February 04, 2018, 06:50:43 PM I hope they are right for you! I cant see anything wrong with the stater in the photo.
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Pablo on February 06, 2018, 07:57:40 PM as promised I'm uploading more pictures. Coins are genuine :) This saxon coin is very rare Eadberht præn penny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadberht_III_Pr%C3%A6n (https://imageshack.com/a/img922/6250/Fg2Nzr.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/a/img923/8496/mQCmzE.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/a/img923/1512/0cJce5.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/a/img924/3436/zWHrr9.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/a/img922/4719/mpzURD.jpg) Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Dale on February 08, 2018, 06:29:11 AM I can see nothing wrong with the starter, nice buy, I don't 100% like the look of the penny???
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: nobby on February 09, 2018, 02:26:35 PM Neither do I ......but I didnt like to say anything ;D
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: celticspikey on February 09, 2018, 09:50:44 PM Perhaps you can let us know what you payed for them Pablo. ;)
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Pablo on February 10, 2018, 12:05:13 PM £480 for the lot. They were in the wrong category and description, title was - old coins :D I was lucky.
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: Val Beechey on February 10, 2018, 03:58:50 PM Lucky indeed. Almost as good as a car boot Jack-pot.
My eldest Son collects 1st issue records and he’s done the same. He picked one up a couple of weeks ago for £49 + pp. list price is £600. Nice work if you can get it. ;D Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: celticspikey on February 10, 2018, 07:12:24 PM Mmm... if there genuine you were indeed very very lucky.....I still got my doubts listing a group of coins like that lot with a Celtic Gold and putting them in the wrong cattergory Good luck to you. ;)
Title: Re: Celtic, saxon and medieval coins for identification. Post by: probono on February 10, 2018, 07:17:01 PM Well, the seller has only sold one other thing ever.
There was also someone who was bidding up the bids (anyone with 66% of their total bids on one seller is usually a stooge). As long as the sixpence and stater are ok, you've had the coins for a reasonable price. The starter looks very similar to the one I used to own (as in style) - what is it's weight? |