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Title: silver spoon
Post by: Andre on October 24, 2017, 11:35:43 AM
hi guys,went literally for an hour to one of my permissions coming from work and manage to get a few decent items,hoping to go today but the weather is bad around here,that's why i went there yesterday in the first place.
Anyway,i've got this two what i call mounts,don't have a clue about vintage and id and a little silver spoon with some hallmarks on it.Anyone has a clue about hallmarks and age?
Thanks
Ps: lately my permissions are a bit limited for use due to cattle grazing,grass to high,crops still on them,seeded fields,are you guys experiencing similar problems?


Title: Re: silver spoon
Post by: Val Beechey on October 24, 2017, 07:19:36 PM
The mounts are lovely. The one with the hearts is more likely a horse brass than a mount, pretty !
The silver spoon is a really good find but the hall marks don’t seem to be British. If they are the spoon would be really old and they would be makers marks but the design looks more modern.
My guess ? Foreign and not too old.


Title: Re: silver spoon
Post by: Andre on October 24, 2017, 08:42:07 PM
Cheers Val,I thought also that they were horse mounts probably Victorian ones.
As for the spoon it looks like a christening spoon and you are right,the hallmarks look different from the examples I saw.I think I see an MD and a V&R,I don’t know.
Still a good find.I found as well a trade token but very worn,couldn’t get any details,but shows the field was busy sometime ago.


Title: Re: silver spoon
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on October 24, 2017, 11:29:41 PM
Nice looking spoon. I think it may be early 19thC . From what i can make out on your photo. The hallmarks are nearly polished out. Looking from left to right is the lion sterling mark facing left next to it looks like a monarch mark. (indicating a tax had been paid. These were used from  1784 to 1890)
Judging by the wear to the silver most likely an early date in the series.
Well found


Title: Re: silver spoon
Post by: Andre on October 25, 2017, 09:56:43 AM
Thanks mate,that’s why I like this forum,for newbies like me it’s good to have somebody at hand to teatch us something new.The combined knowledge of the senior members is a great thing.
Where can I look for hallmark info?
Thanks


Title: Re: silver spoon
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on October 25, 2017, 10:13:11 AM
Oi who you calling old ,  im not a senior I'm just well matured  ;D

Seriously though the best reference for hallmarks is "jacksons hallmarks "

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Jacksons-Hallmarks-by-ACC-Art-Books-Paperback-2015/213184607?iid=352167336193 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Jacksons-Hallmarks-by-ACC-Art-Books-Paperback-2015/213184607?iid=352167336193)

Or this website

http://silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/index.html (http://silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/index.html)

Not all late 18th and 19thC silver items have a full set of marks. I have a couple of bits that a missing either date letter or assay office . This makes dating a bit harder
These 2 are a good example as they don't have the city mark and dating is a problem as there was no standarisation and different assay offices (cities) used different letters for the same year.


Title: Re: silver spoon
Post by: Andre on October 25, 2017, 09:36:53 PM
Spot on mate,more info than I thought,cheers for that.
I meant seniority in the realm of Metal Detecting Sir!lol😀


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