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Title: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Dale on May 07, 2016, 09:03:29 PM
I added these two interesting coins to the collection the other week, they were both BIN what was good for me, im just glad I spotted them both....
I contacted the Bristol museum to see if they had one in there collection but im still waiting for a reply.


Il leave it to others to ID, I know people enjoy it ;)


 


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Val Beechey on May 07, 2016, 10:09:58 PM
Your collection must be looking a bit impressive by now Dale.  My 2 sit in regal isolation on a page of their own.  ::)
Onwards and upwards, next time maybe No.3 will show up.


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: celticspikey on May 08, 2016, 08:22:30 AM
Credit to you Dale, you certainly know how to sniff them out mate..... ;)



Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Dale on May 08, 2016, 11:06:46 AM
Your collection must be looking a bit impressive by now Dale.  My 2 sit in regal isolation on a page of their own.  ::)
Onwards and upwards, next time maybe No.3 will show up.

Yes its starting to look good now, its getting harder finding examples I haven't got though, I was lucky with the two above.
The local Celtic coins im doing well on, iv added a few nice ones lately, im suppose to sale the duplicates when I up grade but that's a problem for my I struggle to sale things I like lol ;)

Your finds are getting better and better Val, more will come soon im sure your doing well :) ;)


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Dale on May 08, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
Credit to you Dale, you certainly know how to sniff them out mate..... ;)



Cheers Paul ;)

The first coin is the Bristol/Coventry provincial mint mule I spoke to you about, note the B on breast for Bristol, with CIVI TAS COVE TRE on the REV..... im struggling to find anything out about mules like this, there just so rare, one Bristol/Coventry is recorded by Blunt and Whitton but where it is I don't know, this coin could be from the same dies?

The 2nd coin is a known example of a Bristol/London mule, my mate has a example in his collection from the same dies, what he picked up 20 years ago from a auction ;) 


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: handyman [Alan} on May 08, 2016, 06:57:31 PM
well spotted hawkeye!   thats a great addition to the collection.



Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: probono on May 09, 2016, 08:43:15 AM
Ebay seems to be quite good a Bristol coins at the moment - although I must admit that I don't bother looking at BIN coins very often - I don't have the time.

I did pick up this H8 Bristol groat - this one was an auction, but it went for far less than the BIN H8 Bristol groat still on eBay.


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Dale on May 09, 2016, 06:32:25 PM
Nice coin Roland, thanks for showing.

What type coin do you collect? you've showed me a couple of Bristols now.


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: probono on May 10, 2016, 08:22:55 AM
Nice coin Roland, thanks for showing.

What type coin do you collect? you've showed me a couple of Bristols now.

Well, it's possibly a long story but...

I started off collecting roman - and I still do, although I'm mainly concentrating on people I haven't got and late roman and byzantine silver (siliqua, miliarense, hexagrams,etc).

I also collect hammered, but that's mainly groats, and above and Irish coins, but this collection waxes and wanes!

And I also collect the 1811,1812 silver token series (it started because the York coins have 'Cattle & Barber' on them and at the time I was going out with a Miss Barber and my sister was going out with a Mr Cattle)

Finally I also collect roman provincial silver - I've always liked the coins, but I've got a special focus on it this year (like the silver provincial coins last year) because I'm giving a talk on them to the South Wales & Mon Numismatic Soc (meets 1st Monday of the Month in Newport) later in the year.

And then there is whatever takes my fancy! (so I've a few 18th century crowns, some greek, that sort of stuff). I sold a lot of my coins (~1000 roman silvers) a few years back to help moving house, so I've been building my collection up again. I admit that your Bristol collection has certainly inspired me to have more of a look at Bristol coins too :)


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Dale on May 12, 2016, 11:47:19 AM
Nice coin Roland, thanks for showing.

What type coin do you collect? you've showed me a couple of Bristols now.


Well, it's possibly a long story but...

I started off collecting roman - and I still do, although I'm mainly concentrating on people I haven't got and late roman and byzantine silver (siliqua, miliarense, hexagrams,etc).

I also collect hammered, but that's mainly groats, and above and Irish coins, but this collection waxes and wanes!

And I also collect the 1811,1812 silver token series (it started because the York coins have 'Cattle & Barber' on them and at the time I was going out with a Miss Barber and my sister was going out with a Mr Cattle)

Finally I also collect roman provincial silver - I've always liked the coins, but I've got a special focus on it this year (like the silver provincial coins last year) because I'm giving a talk on them to the South Wales & Mon Numismatic Soc (meets 1st Monday of the Month in Newport) later in the year.

And then there is whatever takes my fancy! (so I've a few 18th century crowns, some greek, that sort of stuff). I sold a lot of my coins (~1000 roman silvers) a few years back to help moving house, so I've been building my collection up again. I admit that your Bristol collection has certainly inspired me to have more of a look at Bristol coins too :)


A bit of everything then Roland!!  :D
I also like collecting the groats, Bristol was actually authorised to mint coins for Ireland, they have the WS monogram on like your groat above, theres one for sale here

http://www.leodishammeredcoins.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=27&products_id=400 (http://www.leodishammeredcoins.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=27&products_id=400)

I have a example but the one shown is better than mine, but im not ready to pay that to upgrade ::)

Your groat is from one of Giles Evenet dies cut in Bristol, you can tell this from the pellet beneath the 3rd quarter of the shield ;)


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Dungbeetle on May 12, 2016, 02:40:18 PM
Nice to see someone collecting coins from their locality. I've got a few copper tokens from N. Wales that I've found and a Flintshire bank  shilling and  a sixpence that I bought quite cheaply. Still waiting for a Rhuddlan mint short cross, there's got to be one somewhere for me to find ! Well done  Dale, you're a shrewd collector ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Resurgam on May 12, 2016, 09:18:49 PM
Shucks, someone mentioned Bristols, and I thought!  :D


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: celticspikey on May 13, 2016, 06:33:37 AM
Dale, Roland you put me to shame with your ID,s and your knoledge is to be congratulated, but I guess that's collecting for you, it mite inspire me to pay a bit more attention to trying to Identify my own from now on.........  ::) ::) but feel free to help us you guys many of us rely on your expertise.


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: probono on May 13, 2016, 08:20:43 AM
Your groat is from one of Giles Evenet dies cut in Bristol, you can tell this from the pellet beneath the 3rd quarter of the shield ;)

That's interesting - I hadn't really noticed that - it's often difficult to work out what is meant and what isn't (i.e die rust or the engraver having a bad day). I don't have any books specifically on the Bristol mint - and the books I do have are currently in boxes as we are decorating the lounge! - but it all adds to the knowledge :)

As with many people, I can't just look at any coins I buy with a 'I must have that' (although there are a few) - I always have to look at the value if / when I have to sell them too - there are some very nice coins out there, but with some, let's say, heavy prices. I still feel slightly annoyed about the Chas I half pound I bought 5 years ago - I negotiated a 20% discount, but I still couldn't sell it and get my money back - it's one I'm just going to have to keep in the back of a cupboard for another 40 years or so.

But then - what price is a coin? I bought a Procopius siliqua from eBay (found in Gloucester) for 190 - and in the great sell off sold it to a dealer for 400 - they then sold it to another dealer, who has it listed on eBay for 895.......


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: probono on May 13, 2016, 08:24:33 AM
Dale, Roland you put me to shame with your ID,s and your knoledge is to be congratulated, but I guess that's collecting for you, it mite inspire me to pay a bit more attention to trying to Identify my own from now on.........  ::) ::) but feel free to help us you guys many of us rely on your expertise.

I think we enjoy identifying the coins anyway :) - I also came at this hobby from collecting, I want to know what I've found - I've certainly learned a lot about artefacts, from other people and from looking up the info on the Net or in books - it's letting yourself get really into a subject I suppose and there's always more to learn - just this month I spent two days (off and on) trying to identify a token / coin I found in Pontyclun and finally nailed it down to a 1880/81 Melbourne Exhibition token - now I know for next time :D


Title: Re: Two rare Bristol coins I picked up on eBay in a month
Post by: Resurgam on May 13, 2016, 08:57:50 AM
                        You are spot on there with those comments. Our hobby is so faceted and intriguing, it beggars belief. The history in the coinage, the knowledge in the artefacts, studying the geographical / historic lay of the land and the getting to know our farming communities are but a few things we can associate with our time spent discovering what lies beneath the sod.

                        When I unearthed a very well worn coin from the driven sands of my regular beach, I gave it a quick clean and posted a pic on tinternet. Within the day, back came an id for me. The coin was almost blank, except for an almost indeterminable profile on one side of what I thought was possibly a Roman coin. You have a George III halfpenny of either this year or that, was the reply.

                        How the hell did he work that out? Well, says he; "that was the only two years that they used that profile on George III coinage".

                        Many thanks to all you folk for posting your finds, giving us that all important id; and above all, suffering us many newbies.


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