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Title: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Neil on September 07, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
Detecting Wales headed for our annual visit to a productive farm in the Vale of Glamorgan. I never realised until pointed out by Proconsol on the day that this was our sixth visit to this location in six years! It never ceases to amaze me that some farms just keep on giving with every turn of the plough.

Today the masses gathered in glorious sunshine with clear views across the channel to Weston and the surrounding area to hunt on over 100 acres of stubble that was fine in most places but a  little stubborn in others.

This farm has historically had a Roman hotspot about the size of half a tennis court and as soon as we started the day a few of our intrepid swingers headed off to its location. By the time I got there a good hour had passed and I discovered both The Doc and 16.55DD had uncovered coinage of the pasta eaters. The Doc had a particularly interesting coin as it portrayed the Roman christogram symbol of Chi Rho on the obverse.

The Chi Rho is formed by superimposing the first two (capital) letters chi and rho (ΧΡ) of the Greek word "ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ" =Christ in such a way to produce the monogram. Widespread in ancient Christianity, it was the symbol used by the Roman emperor Constantine I as vexillum (named Labarum).

Shortly after viewing the Roman finds I bumped into Dave Hart who had found a ring literally sitting on the surface of the stubble. Quite difficult to guess the age as it was still largely caked in mud and had a little gilding from what I could see left on it, but my gut instinct was saying 1700;s – be interesting to see it clean Dave and to see if there was still a stone in the bezel.

Next was a yomp to the fields to the far left where I found Antique Boy and Morrows. They had each found a single coin of the silver variety, although one was a tad more exciting than the other. Antique Boy had a 1918 three pence in his had which he literally found as I arrived. Morrows on the other hand had a gigantic shilling of the Virgin Queen herself that he had uncovered in the middle of the field. A great find and a heft loss the equivalent of 12 pennies in the 1550’s – her indoors certainly wouldn’t have been happy with you losing that much money!

To top it all Morrows also found a Garrett probe shortly after which he honestly returned to me and I managed to reunite it with the grateful owner shortly after.

I headed back to the car for a gallon of water as the sun was taking its toll on me to find a few more finders with hammered coins. Some of this I may have under the wrong names so please correct me,  but I saw a penny of James II found by  XXXX,   A Edward penny by the ever jolly Dryland, an Irish issue penny ( I recall us finding the same coins on a previous visit to this farm) found by xxxx and another Edward found by xxxx

An interesting find was made by Mrs Wizard who demanded a prize for unearthing one of the DW Tokens from a token hunt a couple of years ago. It was in great condition and still had our sticker on it. Her prize of a half eaten sausage roll and half a bottle of water were not particularly wanted.

Couple of other interesting finds were floating round including the receiving end of a hooked fastener, a Civil Defence button and the usual bits and bobs, but no buckles of any note.

Due to technical difficulties and my two cameras passing away this month I was using the wife’s camera which decided to pack up on me. I did however get to see another two hammered coins, so if the finders could please add them it would be appreciated.

About 3.30 I headed home as I had a date lined up watching Sir Gareth of Bale hopefully taking us to places we had not been to since ’58. Unfortunately the Israelis had failed to read the script.

Keep the Faith

Neil


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Neil on September 07, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
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Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Neil on September 07, 2015, 04:01:56 PM
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Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: wondering on September 07, 2015, 04:24:09 PM
A lot of nice finds there guys, well searched and well found

George


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: dingdong on September 07, 2015, 05:18:27 PM
First and foremost I want to say a massive THANKYOU for all the effort that NEIL has put in with all the running around taking a vast pletherer of BRILLIANT photographs during what was obviously a great and very successful rally.
It is indeed very much appreciated not only by me,but for all of those who for one reason or other were unable to attend.
So,on behalf of us all,MANY, THANKS ONCE AGAIN..NEIL,and all of you that got the rally organised.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: handyman [Alan} on September 07, 2015, 05:24:12 PM
Thanks again to the DW guys n gals for making it a lovely day out.

Mrs H managed to outdo me today .. like she always does on DW rallies!   i attach a piccy of an oval shaped  coin weight, of 1.2g.   It is 1 cm across at its widest point. I think its a coin weight of a quarter farthing, but i would welcome confirmation of this as i can't find another similar parallel.

Cheers everyone and congrats to all who found something.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Dale on September 07, 2015, 06:46:18 PM
Well done to all the finders some nice items was found ;)

Dylan I hope you removed the hammie before going home to the wife :D ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Neil on September 07, 2015, 08:09:18 PM
Cheers Ding Dong for the kind words - much appreciated.

Feel free to add any more finds to this thread guys.

Cheers
Neil


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Chef Geoff on September 07, 2015, 09:00:22 PM
Thanks again to the DW guys n gals for making it a lovely day out.

Mrs H managed to outdo me today .. like she always does on DW rallies!   i attach a piccy of an oval shaped  coin weight, of 1.2g.   It is 1 cm across at its widest point. I think its a coin weight of a quarter farthing, but i would welcome confirmation of this as i can't find another similar parallel.

Cheers everyone and congrats to all who found something.

Alan do you mean "a quarter of a farthing" ie. a sixteenth of a penny ??? and what era do you have in mind?


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: handyman [Alan} on September 07, 2015, 09:05:09 PM
Hi Geoff

i based the idea of the quarter of a farthing from the "coin" weight of 1.2g.   it may suggest victorian period, but somehow the style of the weight suggests an earlier period ..... .any ideas are welcome...


cheers


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Chef Geoff on September 07, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
The thing is coin weights were practically wholly restricted to gold and silver coins as copper coins were worth what they said on them rather than what they contained (within reason), the weight is about right for a quarter Angel but it has what looks like a Phoenix on the one side so if a coin weight then it's either foreign or non official :-\


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: jayhay69 on September 07, 2015, 10:00:35 PM
my few finds from the rally shame the stubble was high on some of the fields but had a great day weather was TOOOO hot lol, had a laff thanks for good rally from NWDD, maybe see you on the next.

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/jayhay69/sundays%20finds_zpszxgozm3x.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/jayhay69/media/sundays%20finds_zpszxgozm3x.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: probono on September 07, 2015, 10:27:54 PM
I'm amazed at the finds - I only managed green waste myself - and I saw Doc dig up his roman.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Dryland on September 07, 2015, 11:38:23 PM
Thanks once again to DW for a cracking rally.Because I had the time of my life and I've never felt this way before, I swear it's the truth and I owe it all to you. There must be a song in this somewhere  ;D ;D I even came away with a hammy. I'm burned to a crisp with a white band on my head where my headphones had been. Dale I'm thinking of having the hammered permanently stuck on my forehead. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: mrstonytrees on September 08, 2015, 07:49:21 AM
Had a great day out at the rally - it was boiling! I didn't find anything major but had a nice George IV penny dated 1829 and got very excited over a very corroded thick little coin that a lot thought may be a Roman but after much cleaning turned out to be a post decimal one pence piece! Well it was nice while it lasted ;D

It was lovely meeting Val, Val's hubby and 2 tired little doggies, Clare, Mark and Willy - see you at the next one hopefully.

Cheers
Helena


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Val Beechey on September 08, 2015, 08:32:40 AM
First and foremost.  Great write up again Neil.  I went with the idea that at the very least it would be nice weather,  nice people and if I found anything of note it would be a bonus.  Once again I got it right  ;D
It was so nice meeting up with a few familiar faces but disappointing that I also missed a few.  Congrats to all who found goodies (I'm not jealous  >:( )  at least I know what a hammie looks like, just in case  ::)
 
Handyman (Alan)  Looking at the pics of your 'coin weight'  I'm sure I can detect a small extrusion on each side, or is it my new specs !!
Also looking at the engraving reminded me of something I read about early ring seals.  There was a period when swivel bezel rings were popular.  Yours could fit the bill and it's about the right size.  What's your thoughts ?

Val

p.s.  I think it looks more like a Griffon.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: handyman [Alan} on September 08, 2015, 09:02:56 AM
Great ID Val.

You are right on the money .... a swivel seal .... it's made Mrs H's day .. it's her first ever seal.

cheers


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: wittsy1 on September 08, 2015, 09:54:50 AM
Well done to all who attended. Some nice finds on what sounds a cracking day ou.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: hotmill on September 08, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
Great write up! Looked like it was a good day.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Chef Geoff on September 08, 2015, 12:15:06 PM
Great id Val and it looks like a bird/Giffon was a popular depiction on them but as I cant see any arms I'm sticking with phoenix lol
https://finds.org.uk/database/search/results/q/swivel+seal


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: nobby on September 08, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
Great write up as always Neil
couldnt make it myself  :( which was a shame as its a great area, nice weather and quite local..... well done on the finds everybody


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: REAPER on September 08, 2015, 07:19:43 PM
Well done Neil, and you picked the only sunny weekend this year. :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: Dale on September 08, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
First and foremost.  Great write up again Neil.  I went with the idea that at the very least it would be nice weather,  nice people and if I found anything of note it would be a bonus.  Once again I got it right  ;D
It was so nice meeting up with a few familiar faces but disappointing that I also missed a few.  Congrats to all who found goodies (I'm not jealous  >:( )  at least I know what a hammie looks like, just in case  ::)
 
Handyman (Alan)  Looking at the pics of your 'coin weight'  I'm sure I can detect a small extrusion on each side, or is it my new specs !!
Also looking at the engraving reminded me of something I read about early ring seals.  There was a period when swivel bezel rings were popular.  Yours could fit the bill and it's about the right size.  What's your thoughts ?

Val



p.s.  I think it looks more like a Griffon.


Well done Val that's a great id ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 87 - 'The Heat Is On'
Post by: legio11augustus on September 09, 2015, 09:13:15 PM
nice finds, amazing how 6 rallies on these fields and there still spewing up the finds


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