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Title: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 12:03:49 PM
I had a few hours out today and managed about 20 roman coins and a brooch fragment, I placed a tiny minim on a 1p for size, I was led to believe they were clipped to this size? and why? any info on they would be great ;)

The small chipped Roman coin looks unusual to me any ideas who it is? Im not even sure if its a bloke or a women?

Thanks in advance ;) 


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: celticspikey on August 30, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
Great result Dale and nice condition coins, it amazes me how we pick up those minims. Well done good field there


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: TEZZA on August 30, 2015, 12:57:41 PM
Great hunt nice coins brill well done


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
Great result Dale and nice condition coins, it amazes me how we pick up those minims. Well done good field there

It is amazing Paul and the machine lets you know its there easley enough, with only 10 hours or so use of the new machine I think its working wonders, its a pleasure to hunt with ;)   


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: celticspikey on August 30, 2015, 04:09:23 PM
Great result Dale and nice condition coins, it amazes me how we pick up those minims. Well done good field there

It is amazing Paul and the machine lets you know its there easley enough, with only 10 hours or so use of the new machine I think its working wonders, its a pleasure to hunt with ;)   
It shows your getting the hang of things more to come for sure.  ;)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Forgotten Past on August 30, 2015, 04:37:08 PM
Some nice finds there,what machine do you use


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: dingdong on August 30, 2015, 04:49:22 PM
Congratulations in order again Dale,told ya  you had a very good piece a land,well searched mate!!and well saved!! 👍


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Chainsaw Bampy on August 30, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
very nice finds, good haul there.


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: congerman on August 30, 2015, 06:25:09 PM
super selection well searched  bet you're feeling it now  ;D


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 07:29:38 PM
When the rain stopped a mate phoned he was after a quick hunt...... So we headed to the same farm but a different field away from the main settlement, it was pretty quiet but some Romans did pop out.

I also picked up a few clay pot rims ;)

Cheers all for your comments


Forgotten Past im using the Deus Light in P3


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Val Beechey on August 30, 2015, 07:38:55 PM
That was a very busy 3 hours Dale and some really nice finds to show for it.

Just curious,  why have you got tape around the charging points ?


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 07:41:18 PM
Cheers Val ;)

It keeps flashing in the bedroom, I like to keep my machine away from the kids


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Val Beechey on August 30, 2015, 08:20:13 PM
As long as it's only the Deus that's flashing I can live with that.  Makes sense to down grade the attraction for the kids. Little fingers, big problems. ;)

p.s. talking of kids, do we ever grow up.  My new tablet whistles at me every time I get an EMail.  Always makes me smile ;D ::)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: probono on August 30, 2015, 08:36:33 PM
Well done again Dale - some nice condition coins amongst that lot - the little roman (if I read it correctly) is of Theodora - (mother of Constantine?) - I should remember who exactly there are one of these days :)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Chef Geoff on August 30, 2015, 08:43:40 PM
Constantine's mother was Helena ;)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 08:54:19 PM
As long as it's only the Deus that's flashing I can live with that.  Makes sense to down grade the attraction for the kids. Little fingers, big problems. ;)

p.s. talking of kids, do we ever grow up.  My new tablet whistles at me every time I get an EMail.  Always makes me smile ;D ::)

Yes big problems, iv already found one of the ear cups hanging off by the wire, it unclipped some how? none of the kids knows how it happened :D


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
Well done again Dale - some nice condition coins amongst that lot - the little roman (if I read it correctly) is of Theodora - (mother of Constantine?) - I should remember who exactly there are one of these days :)

Roland you will like this one found on the same farm, about 10 meters from where I had my early BC brooch, almost 400 years age difference ;)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: probono on August 30, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
Well done again Dale - some nice condition coins amongst that lot - the little roman (if I read it correctly) is of Theodora - (mother of Constantine?) - I should remember who exactly there are one of these days :)

Roland you will like this one found on the same farm, about 10 meters from where I had my early BC brooch, almost 400 years age difference ;)
Very nice - full flan too - don't see too many of those, although they are more common than the usual pricing would admit - did you see the milarense of Eugenius that came up in that hoard a year or two ago?

Anyway, a very nice coin, don't have one at the moment either (I would write Lol, but apparently I have to replace it with hehe nowadays).


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: probono on August 30, 2015, 09:13:33 PM
Constantine's mother was Helena ;)

True - of Sainthood and true cross fame......however there was also Fausta and Theodora in the mix somewhere and I'm too tired to go and look (just come back from Dingle today, but car and ferry zzzzz)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 30, 2015, 10:40:29 PM
Well done again Dale - some nice condition coins amongst that lot - the little roman (if I read it correctly) is of Theodora - (mother of Constantine?) - I should remember who exactly there are one of these days :)

Roland you will like this one found on the same farm, about 10 meters from where I had my early BC brooch, almost 400 years age difference ;)
Very nice - full flan too - don't see too many of those, although they are more common than the usual pricing would admit - did you see the milarense of Eugenius that came up in that hoard a year or two ago?

Anyway, a very nice coin, don't have one at the moment either (I would write Lol, but apparently I have to replace it with hehe nowadays).

I thought you would like it ;)

No I haven't seen the Eugenius found in the hoard what hoard was it? its the first time iv heard of him to be honest ;)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: probono on August 31, 2015, 10:04:55 AM
This is a link to one of the coins from the hoard:-

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=247039 (http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=247039)

I've got a few of the commoner ones - Arcadius siliqua and the like - but it was 9 miliarenses and 653 siliquae.....!

I tried a quick search to find out more about the hoard, but the CNG bit tells you something about it.


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Chef Geoff on August 31, 2015, 10:32:21 AM
Courtesy of Spink

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"The Gussage All Saints hoard of 662 late Roman silver coins was found on 21 March 2010 on ploughed land in the parish of Gussage All Saints, Dorset. The hoard was contained in a small earthenware flagon which was lifted and the taken to the British Museum in London where the coins were then removed and conserved. The hoard comprised 653 Siliquae and nine Miliarenses.
Curiously the Miliarenses were found at the top, in the neck of the flagon, which suggest careful packing of the coins into the pot at the time of concealment. The earliest coins were issues of Constantius II, struck 355-61 and the latest issue of Arcadius and Honorius from the Milan mint struck c.395-402. In addition to coins of these emperors, Julian II (as Caesar and Augustus), Jovian, Valentinian I, Valens, Gratian, Valentinian II, Theodosius I, Magnus Maximus, Flavius Victor and Eugenius were all represented. A small number of coins could not be attributed with certainty to a specific emperors and a few others were blundered and irregular issues. The composition of the hoard by emperor and denomination was
Miliarenses
Siliquae Constantius II (337-61) 20
Julian II (360-63) 1 52
Jovian (363-64) 5
Valentinian I (364-75) 1 9
Valens (364-78) 3 75
Gratian (367-83) 2 68
Valentinian II (375-92) 38
Theodosius I (379-95) 69
Magnus Maximus (383-88) 1 72
Flavius Victor (387-88) 9
Eugenius (392-94) 1 33
Arcadius (383-408) 101
Honorius (393-423) 65
Uncertain 21
Irregular 16
TOTAL 9 653
The majority of the coins were from the Trier (357 coins) and Milan (138) mints. Other Western Empire mints represented
were Lyon (51), Arles (44), Rome (27) and Aquileia (17). In addition there were a small number of Eastern Empire mints with Siscia (3 coins), Sirmium (3), Thessalonica (1), Constantinople (4), Nicomedia (2) and Antioch (6).
The composition of the Gussage All Saints hoard is comparable to the much larger and more famous Hoxne hoard in the British Museum. In comparison, Gussage All Saints has a higher percentage of coins of Trier as opposed to Milan and a higher proportion dating from 378-95, perhaps reflecting it’s slightly earlier deposition than Hoxne. Many of the coins have been subject to a low level of clipping, a practise common to British found Siliquae of this period, however the extent of clipping is far less severe than that noted for the Hoxne find. This, along with the content of the hoard, suggests a date of deposition of c.410. The hoard therefore dates from the period when the Western imperial government, beset with the collapse of the Rhine frontier and invasions in Gaul and Italy, relinquished its authority over the British province which was left to its own devices and increasingly vulnerable to Germanic and Irish raiding.
The Hoard was brought to Spink earlier this year after it completed the Treasure process. One coin was retained by the British Museum. We are pleased to offer each variety of the Miliarenses, a selection of the best of the Siliquae along with a few ‘large lots’ and the flagon in which the hoard was found.
"


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: Dale on August 31, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
Cheers for that, its a new one to me ;)


Title: Re: A three hour hunt
Post by: probono on August 31, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
I find it amazing that a hoard like that with some really rare coins wasn't retained by any museum (apart from one coin) yet many other items do seem to get retained.......


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