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Title: Black Grass
Post by: ancientpat on July 05, 2015, 02:37:04 PM
I don't know how many detectorists have heard of the above but until recently I certainly hadn't but it came up on the BBC Countryfile program a few weeks ago. What has this to do with detecting, well after speaking to  one of my farmer friends I realised how this weed can impact on what we do for a hobby.It is a difficult thing to eradicate and because farmers of recent years have been redrilling fields within weeks of cropping them by discing and it has been resistant to herbicide the spread has got worse which affects the crop output. What has made it worse is the lack of ploughing which will have to change if it it is to be controlled and my own farmer has told me that he is going to have to plough all his crop fields this year so hopefully the same will apply to most of your farms too !! I look forward to good finds this autumn. It is more of a problem on heavy clay soils .

                                                       Pat ;) ;)   


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: dingdong on July 05, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
Nice bit of useful information Ancientpat,I  detect mainly on farmland and was wondering if this was a nation wide problem or just in Wales.Thanks for that 👍


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: Chef Geoff on July 05, 2015, 04:28:52 PM
A couple of my farmers (wheat) are always complaining about it and they plough but but all of my permissions are on lias clay so that's probably why ;)


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: dingdong on July 05, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
Thanks Chef,I had to look up LIAS CLAYS, I'm now a wiser man regarding bedrock formations etc!!! education is a wonderful FING !!!...LOL.👍


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: celticspikey on July 05, 2015, 06:36:18 PM
Good post dingdong any idea wher I can by 20 bags of black grass seed ;D ;D ;)  ;) I'm fed up with cultivation lol


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: Mike on July 05, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
Good post dingdong any idea wher I can by 20 bags of black grass seed ;D ;D ;)  ;) I'm fed up with cultivation lol


interesting post pat , i was wondering why spikey wanted all those bags of seeds  ::) ::) :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: dingdong on July 05, 2015, 07:37:46 PM
Careful now,that could open a CANA worms...😷🚬alledgely !!!!!.LOL!!


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: marknewbury1 on July 05, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
fund this in the grass in the week


Title: Re: Black Grass
Post by: 8 1/2 Carat gold on July 05, 2015, 08:09:02 PM
Ragwort Japanese not weed "river banks soft  ground   Ploughing  don't make it go away only control it , black weed five weeds are classified as 'injurious' under the Weeds Act 1959: common ragwort (Senecio jacobaea), spear thistle (Cirsium vulgare), creeping or field thistle (Cirsium arvense), broad-leaved dock (Rumex obtusifolius) and curled dock (Rumex Crispus).

It is not an offence to have these weeds growing on your land and species such as ragwort have significant conservation benefits. However, ragwort must not be allowed to spread to agricultural land, particularly grazing areas or land which is used to produce conserved forage.

For ragwort, the legal framework is supported by a Defra Code of Practice. How to Prevent the Spread of Ragwort was introduced in 2003 to promote good practice and neighbourliness. It clearly states that ‘it does not attempt to eradicate ragwort, but simply to control it where it is potentially injurious’. It encourages local resolution of ragwort problemsby contacting the landowner, before complaining to Natural England.


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