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Hi I just bought a Safari it is a bit more complex compared  my Ace 250and i was looking on the internet and found some program cards on Ebay are they worth getting? I also read about a handbook that is now out of print is that worth looking for?

I never heard of any official program cards walsamra.  The book your looking for is the Andy Sabisch Minelab Quattro & Safari Handbook.  You usually can get it from Regtons but I've just looked and they don't seem to have any in stock.
Give them a ring and ask, they're very helpful.

Val

Thanks Val
I will give them a ring tomorrow.
Wal

Hi buddy,dont bother buying those cards,they arnt much help at all,your better off learning the tones or sell your Safari and buy a Minelab Sovereign, that's what i ended up doing,good luck either way 👍👍

Thanks I will try to learn the tones. I just received the Safari I will have to stick with ito for a while.

Don't forget to ask for help.  There are still a few on here who stuck with and can give valuable advice. It's not an easy machine to learn but once learned it wont disappoint.

I hated it to distraction for months but had to stick with. It has it's own language, which in my opinion is far superior to most other machines.

Val

Thanks for the advice Val
I will try using it on all metal first. I am told that is the best way to get to know the machine.  Any advice for me ?
wal

Hey Walsamra, As Val said stick with the Safari and don't be put off it.  I suppose everyone has their own opinion but I found it to be one of the easiest detectors to learn. If you google MINELAB SAFARI PROGRAMS and scroll down about 4 places to -  GETTING THE MOST OUT OF YOUR MINELAB SAFARI METAL DETECTOR, theres a great video on there by a fellow called Gordon, apart from being interesting it also gives you a great program to try. I sold my Safari to buy a Deus but one day I think I'll buy another Safari as a back up machine

Hi Wal,  way to go.  I've kept my Safari as a back up, I loved it but after a break last year I suddenly found it a bit too much for me. After trying many different settings I came back to using All Metal with the Sensitivity at 18 and Low Trash. This gives you all the tones, extra recovery and depth. The iron tone is definite and to start with dig everything above it. You'll soon learn, more or less, what to expect from the different sounds.
It just loves silver and doesn't miss much else though I can't speak about gold, I never found any :'( There are a couple of other settings that are pretty good but initially keep it simple. Plenty of time to experiment when you feel more secure with the tones.
Did you find the Handbook.?

Val

Thank you guys that is really helpful. the handbook is out of print I left them my number in case they found one.

Good morning Wal,
                             I only just spotted your thread! I bought a copy of the Quattro-Safari handbook by Andy Sabisch only last year. I actually bought the hand book prior to purchasing my Safari from Joan Allen. Regtons are a superb company but for the sake of getting your hands on the book try some of the other companies.

Many thanks for the advice
I have called around no onemail seems to have I read on minelab owners forum that an ebook will be out soon. I guess I will have to wait for it.

If we have a club dig on Sunday have a chat with some of the minelab users, I know a couple of them have used the safari.

I will do that thanks. It just looks a bit complicated at the moment. I will watch the video read the articles from the net and try it on the beach one evening.

Hi Walsamra it's not that complicated at all really, confusing to start with maybe, it took me a year to learn the tones but I had been detecting with lots of different machines before and so came to the FBS machine with too many preconceived ideas, people who learn it quite fast generally are more open minded a bit like a child learning a foreign language they don't ask "why" it just is.
Don't take any notice of Dingdong he just threw in the towel to early it's a great machine so stick with it and it fill suddenly all make sense ;)

Wal,
I'd recommend the Relic setting for the beach. It automatically blanks out some of the iron.
 Are you aware that the 2 settings on the right are in Ferrous whilst the 2 on the left are Conductive.
This means that you get opposite tones. i.e.  the right hand is -  Low tone is bad, High tone is good.  Left hand side is - High is bad, Low is good.
Sorry if this confuses you but you do have 2 quite different ball games.  As Geoff just said, some get used to it quickly, others don't.  There is a way of cross saving a program from conductive to ferrous. I think a lot of Safari users, including me, have done this. It saves a lot of confusion and saves you having to tell your brain to flip a switch.  I used to find after a few yards I'd be listening for the wrong tones.  You really need that Handbook. It explains so much.

Val

p.s. If you haven't already been told a hundred times,  LOW & SLOW with the Safari

As low and as slow as you like...👍

I have been practicing with my safari for a while now I am starting to understand the different tones, I was wondering if anyone has got the Andy Sabisch book for sale or even for rent for a few weeks I have searched all over Ebay, Amazon, all the shops and Sabisch books no one seems to have it.

                                                It would be nice if it was available as an ebook. If the book is out of print; can we legally copy and transmit it? Only a thought, and not a suggestion!

No I'm afraid you have a few years to wait yet, the rest of Andy's lifetime plus 70 years ;)

sorry i just bust out laughing then ,chef said  people who learn it quite fast generally are more open minded a bit like a child lol then i read dryland picked it up real easy lol that explains it dylan  ;D ;D

Oi I heared that ;D ;D....I'm a bit like Cliff Richard and I have the young looks to match my young mind  ::) ;D ;D

 :D :D :D :D

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm; and!????  ;)

you may have his looks, but u certainly got a better voice!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

mrs H, once won 2 free tickets to see Cliff at the NEC...... the next day i went and asked for my money back as he was awful.

however, his support act  -- russell watson, was superb!!!  far better than the main act!

                    I have just remembered a book handler in Warrington called "The Book Finder General" who specialises in out of print books and wonder if they could get their hands on a copy of the handbook?

Thanks I will keep looking for the book anD give the warrington company a ring.
I will also make sure I avoid Cliff Richard concerts I also like Russell Watson.

Hi Walid, I've got a few copies of every other of Andy's books but not the Safari manual I've just sent him an email to ask if he's got any spare ones left over and if so if he can send me one over, so no promises but watch this space ;)

Thank you Geoff this is the closest I got to get a copy. I am searching every day online.
let me know if you get a response.