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Title: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Chef Geoff on February 24, 2015, 09:45:23 AM
Who says you never find anything with a magnet?

Teenage metal detector trawling Somerset river stumbles across hidden cache of 40 'IRA' weapons - including 'Widow Maker' rifle and Nazi machine gun

By JIM NORTON FOR THE DAILY MAIL
Trawling through the water with a magnet, schoolboy James Cork had only expected a modest haul of scrap metal.
But, last week, the 16-year-old from Somerset stumbled across a rather more shocking discovery – a hidden cache of 40 deadly weapons.
The arsenal of rusting and grubby guns dating back to the Second World War included a Browning .50 machine gun, which could take down a helicopter, and an M16 assault rifle.
An expert has suggested the guns may have belonged to the IRA and could have been dumped when they were meant to be declaring their arms in 2001.

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The teenager from Street had taken up the unusual hobby of magnet fishing six months ago, but had only managed to salvage the odd bit of scrap metal.
But while combing Greylake on the Somerset Levels with a rope and a strong magnet tied to the end, he and a friend suddenly came across a 40-strong haul of terrifying weapons
Among them were parts of a Nazi MG 42 light machine gun, which has a 600m killing range, and a Czech SA23 9mm submachine gun.
He told The Sun: ‘I was shocked. I’ve never found anything like this before. There were a few whole weapons, but not many. Some were machine guns, pistols and revolvers. And there was a massive machine gun on a stand.
‘There was a fisherman getting quite angry as I was disturbing the water. But when he saw what I pulled out, he came and helped.’
Though he threw most back into the water, he took one of the guns – thought to be a 1930s Smith & Wesson .38 - home to play with.
However when his mum Katherine saw him playing with the gun, she called 999 and an armed police arrived minutes later.
The 37-year-old said: ‘Nothing illegal is allowed in the house.
‘But I didn’t think I’d be dealing with one of my kids holding a gun. I said, “Bring it downstairs, leave it in the kitchen and don’t touch it”.’

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James Cook, 16, said he had 'never found anything like it before'. A fisherman helped the teenager pull the haul of weapons out of the water

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Among the guns was an M16 Rifle dubbed the Widow Maker (top) by British troops fighting the IRA in Ulste

Police dredged the river the next day to recover the rest of the weapons.
A spokesman for Avon & Somerset Police said: ‘None of the weapons were complete, and they were extremely rusty and very old. All of the weapon parts have been or are being destroyed.’
An expert suggested that the weapons could have been used by the IRA during The Troubles and may have been dumped when Republicans were meant to be declaring their arms in 2001.
Former SAS sergeant and author Andy McNab, who served in Northern Ireland during 1979, said the weapons could have been used by the IRA during The Troubles.
He said: ‘This must be a terrorist bundle. That’s because there are weapons for various ranges — from close assassination ones to the Browning that could take out a helicopter or Land Rover.
‘A large machine gun barrel means it could be the IRA. Were they included when they declared their arms? Or were they held back in case they didn't get a deal they wanted?’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2966075/Teenage-metal-detector-trawling-river-stumbles-hidden-cache-40-IRA-weapons-including-Widow-Maker-rifle-Nazi-machine-gun.html#ixzz3SecOmPAx (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2966075/Teenage-metal-detector-trawling-river-stumbles-hidden-cache-40-IRA-weapons-including-Widow-Maker-rifle-Nazi-machine-gun.html#ixzz3SecOmPAx)
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Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Val Beechey on February 24, 2015, 09:55:21 AM
Glad it wasn't me.  Day for him to remember though,  beat that eh !  I can just imagine his poor Moms face when she saw him playing with a gun.

Interesting point,  why should that lot be called a 'cache' and not a hoard. ?

Val


Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: celticspikey on February 24, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
A future detectorist's there I think ;) what an unusual haul, should make a nice display for him if he can keep them ??? after disarming and making safe, or will they be confiscated Geoff ;)


Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Chef Geoff on February 24, 2015, 10:14:11 AM
They will probably of been cleaned to see if they can get any ballistic info from them, barrel to bullet markings, that they can check with forensic records of armed crimes but then no doubt destroyed. With modern machinery there isn't really any good way to decommission a weapon other than destroy it :-\


Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Spooyt Vane on February 24, 2015, 05:00:16 PM
They were probably supplied by Libya as Gadffi supported and trained the I.R.A.cells in his own country back in 1970s..


Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Dale on February 24, 2015, 10:29:36 PM
They will probably of been cleaned to see if they can get any ballistic info from them, barrel to bullet markings, that they can check with forensic records of armed crimes but then no doubt destroyed. With modern machinery there isn't really any good way to decommission a weapon other than destroy it :-\

Good point, it will be interesting to see what come of it ;)


Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Dryland on February 25, 2015, 01:15:10 AM
Thats definitely something to tell his future grandchildren


Title: Re: Guns found in Somerset!
Post by: Spooyt Vane on February 25, 2015, 02:46:25 PM
Glad it wasn't me.  Day for him to remember though,  beat that eh !  I can just imagine his poor Moms face when she saw him playing with a gun.

Interesting point,  why should that lot be called a 'cache' and not a hoard. ?

Val

You are still a catch Val ...a real treasure lol :)


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