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                                         Finally got out with the new Safari this morning and was amazed by the difference from the EuroAce. Having used a EuroAce/Nel Tornado combination for some time now, I wasn't to bothered by the weight of the Safari. The field was like a sponge and ideal for mud wressling. I put four hours in and gave up at lunch time when rain started to set in.

                                         When I started it was rather dark and I had forgotten that there was no back light on the display screen. What a music box; there must be a bloomin orchestra in there! Only managed one 1921 sixpence, a chopped half penny, a one p decimal, a piece of AA copper drive ring, and plenty of iron. I think that I am going to realy like this machine; once I get used to it, and all it's little ways.  ;D

Hi Buddy,nice to know that your enjoying your new machine,Well my Safari arrived this afternoon,big excitement!!. I also ordered and received its new protective all black livery it will look great I think,anyway I am Hopeing to get up and running in the next few days,I'll keep you posted.

good luck with your new toys lads , they are great machines , even dryland found a roman with his  ::) :o :D :D ;)

                                      I look forward to hearing how you get on with your new machine. My finds rates for this morning are pretty poor due to the fact that I have been
hoovering up the field all season with the EuroAce/Nel Tornado coil cobination and most of the best finds are now sitting in a box waiting for cleaning.

                                      The Safari is sertainly an interesting machine and I am lookiing forward to better conditions in the new year when I can get onto my permissions and also visit my regular beach. In the meantime, I plan on doing some in-air target testing and setting up a target test bed in the back garden.

                                                       Stay safe and happy hunting

                                                                    Chris  :)

Thanks for the encouragement Mike. If Dryland can do it, well................... ;D

well done on the finds Chris, encouraging to be finding more good stuff from a well worked site, look forward to your future finds

sharkey

One good tip chris is to discrim -10 if i remember rightly, it is then such a quiet machine that really finds the targets  ;), otherwise open screen gives you a right headache lol, and be sure to use armstrap  ;D ;D

                   Thanks m8; I had been anticipating a better score this morning but it just shows how thoroughly I must have worked the field with the EuroAce. I recovered almost £30 in decimal spendable coins plus a load of cut and chopped coins; as well as loads of brass, copper, and lead. Not a single hammered or Roman though!  :'(

                   Here are a few of the EuroAce goodies off the field during the season.

 

Oops, I got out of sequence then. Thanks for the tip. I had a real good play with the Safari this morning but was presently using unsuitable headphones. I tried all metals in conductivity and had a few problems discerning some of the tones. Interestingly, the machine was spot on in reading can-slaw as ringpulls and I was able to give them a miss.

Looks like I have a lot of learning to do!  ;)

not a lot of leaning chris, with the safari m8, simples, just discrim -10 to quiten the machine down and wait for the high tones, absolutely great on wet and dry beach  :) :)

                                Sounds good to me. I'm hoping to give it a run on the sands at Talacre during the new Year. It will be nice to be able to move from dry sand to wet and back again without my detector going crazy and having to reduce the sensitivity, suffering a loss of depth.

Don't ignore the ring pull signals Chris, they are very similar to hammered signals !

If you give ring pulls a miss you could also also be missing rings and hammies along with loads of other goodies, remember the Minelabs were designed in Australia with an eye to the American market neither of which has Roman or hammies so ignore signals at your peril  ;)

Duly noted and taken on board! Dig all above ferrous?

 

All the best with the new machine in the new year Chris.

Thanks m8; now to get my hands on that Talacre treasure!  ;D ;D ;D

hi all just wondering  would any one know the settings for the vikeing v 30 as my nephew has just bought one  ta  sinky .

Don't know what settings you're using Chris but rule of thumb is did everything that even hints at being other than iron and that includes the iffy signals.  Iffy can be iron with something hiding under or close by.

Val

Same as Val said.  I run mine wide open ..... no discrimination and dig -4 to +40

                                Initially I ran the Safari in conductive and all metals, just to see how I coped with the tones. I also tried all four pre-set settings, just to see them working. Conditions were so wet and muddy that I had trouble digging and replacing the turfs. Knowing that the site is so contaminated with hacked aluminium cans I eventually chose to ignore them and concentrate on coins.

                                It was really a get to know you session for me and the new machine. I wasn't too concerned about missing all those diamond rings and hammies;  I was to wet and caked in mud to worry to much. It took me ages to clean up all the gear when I got home.

                              Interestingly, last night I did a couple of test with copper clad decimal coins and they came up as -10's; as did a 5p decimal. I'm going to set up a test bed in the back garden and also use some of my earlier finds for a quick in-air test, just to get a better idea of what I'm looking at.

                               Thanks for all you replies and advice folks; hopefully I will be posting plenty of pictures of new finds during the new year. I wish you all a blessed and peaceful
Christmas and may Santa bring you all that you desire.   ;)

                                   Stay safe and happy hunting.

                                                 Chris  :) 

Chris, only use the screen reading to get you used to possible targets.  Don't rely on it or take for granted what it says.
Remember it wasn't made for the U.K.   
As soon as you can try to use the tones.  Left side (Conductive) settings......LOW is good.   RIGHT side (Ferrous)   HIGH is good.

Modern 'coppers' do register as iron because of the core metal.

Val

if you use conductive tone low tone low numbers good as well as high number high tone good, High tone minus numbers will be iron .
If you use conductive tones use small use amount of discrim other wise you will get ear ache, and most important when using dicrim is swing slow ;)

                                 I have seen it advised that ( left side ) conductive tones without discrimination is best for English usage and sniffing out
hammered coins. Although my new ChefPhones, sitting under the Christmas tree, are not the advised ones for the Safari; they will suffice
better than my old ham radio phones that I have been using for the EuroAce and the CS4PI. That is until I can get my hands on a set of Wodland
ChefPhones.  ;D

                                I never used to run the CS4PI with any noise level because it irritated me, but I found the threshold setting on the Safari
quite acceptable. The depth indicator seemed quite accurate and I liked having the oppotunity to  choose the volume level for target tones. I have
read that it is better to run the machine on high volume and reduce the volume on the headphones; this helps to pick out the weeker signals?  :-\

                                I remember once seeing a tv clip where an old lady asked a New York street worker " how do I get to Karnegi Hall?" and he
said "practice, lady practice". And that about summs up my present situation; get out there, in the field, and practice practice practice!  :)

Chris it not that the CP2's are not advised rather they are not the recommended set but there are many users happily using them on FBS machines, those recommendations are just my choices but I have the luxury of choice ;)

i use chefphones cp1 they are great i have the volume on the machine turned right up and back in off on the headphones to suit, conductive tones are good on clean sites without much iron , but can be quite nosiey with a lot of iron and you have to keep looking at the screen in case you get a high tone with high numbers in the case of silver,
Most of the time i uses ferrous and listern to the tones closely and dig to way signals -5 and above , safaris are great with silver that gives a very high tone even higher than copper,
slowly slowly catchy monkey ;)

i had a very worn jetton a couple of weeks ago that gave me -2 on the display so no not ignore the low numbers or you will miss out as Chef says

                      For the duration of my first detecting session with the Safari I kept the sensitivity on automatic but during an in air session with some of my finds from over the last couple of years I put the sensitivity on manual & maximum and was gobsmacked by the potential increase in depth. How are you folks finding the sensitivity performance on both beach and pasture? What sort of depths are you getting?

                       

As I've told you before Chris, too high with the sensitivity on the beach can be a nightmare, especially around my area where the beaches are heavily contaminated.  The depth is amazing but it makes for hard work digging up so much rubbish. I tend to run it at no higher than 16 on the beach.
Fields, depending which ones, I go up to 20.  The same rule applies here though.  Very heavy mineralised and you need to go down or it sounds like your playing Pan Pipes.  All down to practice and experience really. Depending on size of target I have had signals from as deep as a ft.   What I'm waiting for is that Bronze Axe.  Bet that'll give one hell of a ring. ;D
 I never cease to be amazed at the tiny little things the Safari will pick up, especially silver or aluminium.

Val

                                         Good morning Val, you were up early! Remembering what you had said earlier about sensitivity and depth, I didn't even try coming out of automatic on my very first session with the Safari. It was only last night, as I ran a couple of in-air tests, that I started to play with the sensitivity and upon seeing the potential depth thought
 "if only"!

                                         Whilst waiting to escape and get some more Safari detecting under my belt I was just wondering about some more details of targets and depths that you folks are getting.

                                        Have a safe day and happy hunting.  :)

Hi Chris
Glad to hear that you are enjoying the Safari. Good luck and happy hunting my friend.

Hi Richie,
                 it was just a pity that the weather and the ground conditions were not conducive to spending the whole day swinging the Safari on the old sports ground. I walked down there today (minus the detector) and the fields were like a great soggy sponge.

                 Once Christmas is out of the way, I intend giving the Safari a run down to Talacre and seeing how it behaves on the sands there. I will give you a quick pm once I am able to find the best weather and tide that will give the most advantageous conditions for a good day's detecting.