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Hi , i'm thinking of a lighter machine,

 i have an explorer se and the weight is just getting to much , i was think the xp Deus , was wondering if any one has compared them ?

i need pasture and wet sand also some land is heavily mineralised asking a lot to cope with all 3 but the explorer does it quite well

also not sure what the standard coil is for the Deus but i usualy use a 15" wot on the explorer to get the ground coverage and sensitivity

was also wondering how sensitive the Deus is as i need to be able to detect cut quater hammereds

any help would be apprieciated

The Deus isn't too clever on the wet sand but it will do the other conditions easily. Don't get the 13 inch coil with it as it throws the balance all to hell. They are excellent on mineralised ground .

Just have both - but stick an ultimate coil on the Minelab :)

My personal tally (this year) is 6 hammereds for my ETRAC and 1 hammered for my Deus - but there are other people who would have a tally the other way round.

Get the Deus there will be know turning back ( inland) don't expect the Deus to be a serious beach machine because it's not especially compared to the Explorer ;) minelab rules on the beaches unless you master the pulse machines but even then minelab can hold there own. The Deus will amaze you when it comes to small finds I have had 2 cut quarters in the last few trips in medium to high mineralization I guess my advice would be keep your explorer and get the Deus that is until Minelab gets there act together and start developing lighter less bulky machines ::) then I would be the first in the Que.

Yes i was thinking on those lines keep the explorer for beach and use the Deus in land

i was just needing to be sure i would not  loose sensitivity 1 by using the Deus and 2 by using a smaller 11" coil ( currently use a wot 15" on the explorer )

You've got to think of sensitivity and depth as two completely different things the Deus with its 9" coil is more sensitive to small cut quarter type targets than say your SE with a 15" WOT but your SE will punch deeper on pasture on larger items, if you were to put on an 8x6 SEF you will find you get more depth than the WOT on small items (and we are talking "Small") this is because of less mineralised ground below the coil and this is why the Deus with a 9" seems to punch so deep and why with the 13" it doesn't.
As said above "horses for courses" the Explorer for pasture and beach and the Deus for arable and rallies. With your mineralised sites you will get a better result with the Deus but on neutral mineralised ground the SE will score higher ;)

Thanks guys ,

i read on one forum' s thread that the 11" was a big improvement on the 9" for the Deus i don't know if a Deus useron here  can confirm that ?

I use the 11inch coil and as far as I'm concerned it has replaced the 9 inch, that said in amongst really junky ground it would be more suited, but I manage well enough on roman and medieval site so it's the 11 for me. The last 2 cut quarters and a celtic quarter unit fell to my 11 probably due to better ground coverage than depth over the 9 in fairness ;)

No the reason was that you were using the 11" and not the 9" ;D ;)

I use Deus for quick results on rally days especially fresh plough or stubble fields, though on occasions if the stubble ground is baked hot, the se pro comes into its own, though I use se  for the first couple of hours on pasture till my arms ache and then still revert back to Deus, using small stock coil or 16" dependant on length of grass. Both are excellent machines in the right hands  ;D

 Geoff i'm mostly interested in hammered's everything else is secondary,  would the best compromise be the 11"  for a reasonable coverage and ability to detect at reasonable depth smallish targets ?  i have thousands of acres to go at so need some coverage really

is there a better after market coil for the Deus ?

stick a 13" ultimate on a explorer se ,,, job done  ;)

Hi carling
 im very happy with the explorer and wot 15" as far as finding stuff goes and  as you can see i get plenty of hammereds,  its the weight that s the issue

yes I can see you get plenty of hammereds , maybe not as much as me but that's by the by ;D ,, I been using a explorer for years {have upgraded and sold em on} the ultimate is  a fairly new extension to my arsenal and at 1st I wasn't sure but I must say the 10" slimline hasn't been on for a while now.. if its a question of weight get a fairy stick some people love em some hate em but remember your going to have a learning curve..

Good point Geoff ;)

 ;D both machine  ,another few weeks and getting my french xp stick from la maison de la detection saving a lot a money