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Found last nite on the beach not sure on wot it is would be greatful if u guys could help  ;D

Silver goes some funny colours off the beach,give it a gentle clean.Certainly looks like a hammy.Was it pff Amroth.
Al

That's an intriguing find Jimi ??? The reverse show the arms of Castile and Leon so it points to Spain ???

It was found on a beach Geoff so possible washed up from a ship wreck?

Aarrgh, me reckon it be washed up by a shipwreck jim lad :o shiver me timbers and captain Geoff be probably right me thinks. ;D

I'm not 100% but quietly confident that it's a coin of Henry IV of Castile (1454-74) and is  version of the one on the link ;) For my money that makes it more interesting than a Saxon and certainly a rarer find.

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/opac/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=108541&_function_=xslt&_limit_=25 (http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/opac/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=108541&_function_=xslt&_limit_=25)

Forget what I put before it's even better it's a billon "Real de vellón" of Henry II of Castile and Leon (1368-79)
as here;

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/opac/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=108309&_function_=xslt&_limit_=25#1 (http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/opac/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=108309&_function_=xslt&_limit_=25#1)

Are they a common find Geoff and wot country is it from

No certainly not common Jimi at least not here in the UK, as said Henry was king of Castile and Leon which was a Kingdom in what is now part of North West Spain. Where the interest for me lies is the fact this coin isn't dated to any particular year and if we use a bit of romantic licence then the history of the coin becomes interesting,
Henry II was proclaimed king in 1366 after ousting his brother Peter I (Pedro the cruel.....great name) who was his brother but in the very next year he was temporarily kicked off the throne by Peter with great help from an English Army under Edward the Black Prince and John of Gaunt at the Battle of Najero at which it states that the Castilian cavalry were cut down by the "English" longbow.
Now this is the same army (time wise)bthat defeated the French at Crecy and we know that a large percentage of the bowmen were in fact Welsh and not English, so could this coin be the last evidence of a Welshman's part in the battle, brought back as either war booty or a memento?
Great find ;)

I take it that this one goes in the cherish pot thanks Geoff  great info thank u I will bring it to the rally for u to av a look ;D

Oh definitely one for the very cherished Pot and please please get it recorded as there are none at all on the PAS database and if it was part of someone's adventures 500 years ago we owe it to them to make it known ;)

Defiantly mate will do c u at the rally

Great find, very interesting :)

nice jim  ;)

Great find and great ID Geoff.

A very unusual coin!

Very interesting info,Great find.

great find jim .your doing well

what an amazing find on the beach , well done  green with envy ;D

Fantastic coin Jimi,well done  :)
Great bit of history there too Geoff.
A really interesting find,very special  ;)

Well done brother :D
 

It's finds like this that make me ask myself why I'm sat at my computer and not out looking for my own rare coins

Great find and info.

cracking history and a cracking coin well done

lovely unique find and yes it may be my love of a good story that says it should defo be recorded.

Nice find. I like Chef's possible story too :)

wow!!!!! chef geoff an abosolute fount of knowledge.i think the longbow and the welsh is correct because the longbow originated from monmouth,

Fantastic find Jimi, It goes to show that theres still lots of rare things out there

Even I didn't expect a No.4.  Not a Saxon but just as important and very interesting. Excellent find Jimmie. I don't s'pose  you're about to tell us which beach you found it on ?? ::)

Thought not. Ah well. Where's there's one, there's sure to be another.  Maybe I'll walk over one sometime.


Val

Great coin Jimi you must be pleased with that one !!

Geoff you were determined to get that id fair play, its a good one ;)

hiya guys
still a little green under the collar how do i go about registering this find with the PAS of FLO
never done this before
your help would be most grateful :)

oh and thanks for your comments  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

A cracker of a coin mate,especialy from a beach.
Very well done. :)

Jimi first I would give Mark Lodwick a ring and let him know what you have on 02920 573226 or send him an email and include you pics to mark.lodwick@nmgw.ac.uk
 ;)

The coin shows remarkably fine definition for one that has been in the sea for hundreds of years. I suspect it has been released from a cliff face by the very heavy storms we had a few weeks back. Alternatively it may have been sealed in mud and released by the same storms.

Wow what a find well done mate

I found it realy deep a good 18 inches thanks for ur comments guys ;D

Geoff spoke to mark gone take it up to him cheers mate thanks for ur help

hiya guys just a quick update.

i sent an email to timeline originals with the info geoff told me about the coin
i requested some info like has any more been found, is there any in the BM possession, are they common, are they rare, is it valuable, how many do you think were made.

and after a month of waiting i get quote  (very interesting coin worth £20 on eBay many thanks)

well thanks for the help time line originals now i can sleep at night >:(

rant over thanks for listening ;D

PAS is the way to go for information, the coin won't be rare.....in Spain but Timelines don't work in historical value only ££££.