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Title: Roman for ID
Post by: Rob Two Spades on April 11, 2014, 09:08:54 PM
Some help with this would great. Its about an inch across. Other coins in the field are between 295 and 335 AD
Thanks


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 11, 2014, 09:19:10 PM
Well done Rob It's a Follis of Maximianus (Maximian) GENIO-POP ROM on reverse, minted in London in nice condition too ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Rob Two Spades on April 11, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
Cheers Geoff.  :)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: jayhay69 on April 11, 2014, 10:01:03 PM
nice roman rob :)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: congerman on April 12, 2014, 12:35:59 AM
very nice well searched  ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: bristolminelab on April 12, 2014, 04:15:19 AM
nice coin ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: grego on April 12, 2014, 09:09:40 AM
What a very nice find, in such good condition you must be well pleased with it.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: daveh on April 12, 2014, 10:41:24 AM
Lovely condition nice find  8)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: probono on April 12, 2014, 12:13:16 PM
Nice one.

They usually come up quite cruddy.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 12, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
I'd beg to differ on that one, I'm not sure what the difference in the alloy is between your average grot and the follis but 9 out of 10 of the ones I find come out in pretty good condition whereas the grots have suffered badly. ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Dale on April 12, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
I'd beg to differ on that one, I'm not sure what the difference in the alloy is between your average grot and the follis but 9 out of 10 of the ones I find come out in pretty good condition whereas the grots have suffered badly. ;)

Geoff the larger roman coins I find are always better condition, out of about 100 small coins I may get 2-4 for the coin tray, but as you say they are very poor....

Im not sure if iv shown these 3 coins next to the grot before, but im taking it there follis? The condition is how they came out, iv even left the mud on, I haven't chose them from a bunch of coins there the latest 3 over a year or so......... Il use this as a chance to get the mint id if any one can help.....Cheers ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: hoover-G on April 12, 2014, 06:34:33 PM
The coin bottom right is exactly like the one my brother found at last rallie images both sides are the same. Love to know what it is as he's on my case for an id ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 12, 2014, 06:48:20 PM
constantius/constans, mid 4th century,  Virtus leading young barbarian from hut beneath tree



Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: whosyouruncle on April 12, 2014, 07:03:53 PM
Nice find Rob.well done. :)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: celticspikey on April 12, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
Some help with this would great. Its about an inch across. Other coins in the field are between 295 and 335 AD
Thanks
Nice roman there Rob, the coin looks as if it may have been with at least 1 other coin judging by the condition, I have had similar and gone on to found others in the immediate area ;) good site you have there mate good luck.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: diggaduff on April 12, 2014, 07:29:33 PM
Nice coins all  :)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 12, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
I was thinking the same thing Paul that bluey green colour is or can be verdigris formed between coins ???


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: hoover-G on April 12, 2014, 07:39:53 PM
constantius/constans, mid 4th century,  Virtus leading young barbarian from hut beneath tree


Thanks pal. Looked it up found this page it's just over halfway down

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ccc.html (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ccc.html)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 12, 2014, 07:45:46 PM
i must admit that of the myriad of reverse designs that were used on the roman coinage, this is one of my favourites and most symbolic. The imagery is powerful.

I also like the twins suckling romulus and remus. If yo uwant to know more about the wonderful reverses that are out there, try this link.

http://finds.org.uk/romancoins/personifications (http://finds.org.uk/romancoins/personifications)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: celticspikey on April 12, 2014, 08:00:44 PM
I was thinking the same thing Paul that bluey green colour is or can be verdigris formed between coins ???
As you say Geoff it can be formed between coins, mine was no doubt as I found another coin and it matched the verdigris marks exactly on the first coin, where they had laid in the ground together over many years ,I had 7 coins in the area ::) still looking for the mother load :o it's just a hunch and worth Rob concentrating the area as I'm sure we all agree ;)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 12, 2014, 08:03:40 PM
If anyone wants a reference work for Roman coins you can download the previous (2005) ERIC from here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxtf-O7KMnEnTGdEQ19ZbDhXNFU/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: probono on April 13, 2014, 11:17:58 PM
I'd beg to differ on that one, I'm not sure what the difference in the alloy is between your average grot and the follis but 9 out of 10 of the ones I find come out in pretty good condition whereas the grots have suffered badly. ;)

Well, the larger ones I've found have all been pants. I think the reason they are better (in some cases) is that they have a slightly higher silver content and this is mostly on the outside. At some point too there was a change from brass to bronze to leaded bronze. I know (having heated them up) that you can often get beads of lead from coins of magnentius and the like.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 14, 2014, 06:38:50 PM
Lovely coin


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Rob Two Spades on May 04, 2014, 01:22:22 PM
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As you say Geoff it can be formed between coins, mine was no doubt as I found another coin and it matched the verdigris marks exactly on the first coin, where they had laid in the ground together over many years ,I had 7 coins in the area Roll Eyes still looking for the mother load Shocked it's just a hunch and worth Rob concentrating the area as I'm sure we all agree

Its from a scattered hoard probably. Had about 55 coins spread over a 50yds x 100yds plus lots of pottery, 3 brooches and a bracelet. All roman. Under crop now of course, will be ploughed in late September. With so many nails in the area nothing was over 4" deep so I expect a lot more over next few seasons.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Rob Two Spades on May 09, 2019, 04:49:29 PM
Well this topic has very happy ending  ;D
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-48215635 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-48215635)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: The Doc on May 09, 2019, 05:48:56 PM
Wow - great news Rob. What a fantastic find.

I saw this posted on another forum this morning and didn't make the connection that you are a member here.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Val Beechey on May 09, 2019, 07:29:22 PM
Nice to hear some good news. Great outcome Rob. Bet your having sweet dreams about the settlement.

Take its time going through though. A mere 5 years  :o  ::)


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: Rob Two Spades on May 10, 2019, 07:02:12 PM
Thanks!  Yes, it took a lot of searching before the hoard that was first mentioned here finally got found. The top of the pot had been clipped and about 8 or 9 similar coins found their way into the plough soil.  The hoard was quite deep and it was a pottery scatter that gave the best clue.


Title: Re: Roman for ID
Post by: probono on May 11, 2019, 10:32:26 PM
it's interesting to hear these things - in your earlier posts you were mentioning that quite a number of coins came from that area.

How deep was it? You say that it was the pottery scatter that alerted you - was there no other pottery of a similar date in the area? Where I detect there's often tons of pottery (and very little else tbh!) - or no pottery - I've got a roman site where I know it is there, but have only found two sherds so far......did you make a educated guess and then dig out and area?

For the hoard I found, I'm pretty sure I found one of the coins about 6 months earlier, and it was only when I bought a new coil and found another, and then checked the hole and found some more that I knew I'd found something - and then the next day took off about a spade's depth in an area around the initial finds to look for the others - which in my case seems to have been a scattered purse loss.

What a cracking find anyway :)


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