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Title: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 10, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
                         I recently gained permission to detect on a new building development, providing I stayed outside the compound perimeter fence. That still give me plenty of ground to detect on, so I paid the site a visit yesterday morning and assessed the ground for a plan of attack! Finished up using the EuroAce with my new Nel Tornado coil fitted. Worked through to lunch time and then gave up due to some problems developing with  the EuroAce.

                         Plenty of coins, lead, copper, and brass turning up; so it looks promising for future visits. Once I sort out the EuroAce, that is! Interestingly, I bagged a 1926 Irish penny and a broken clay pipe bowl.
 ( The clay pipe was made in Dublin! )



Title: Re: Building development
Post by: stever on April 10, 2014, 12:11:49 PM
nice finds  :)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Richie sixpence on April 10, 2014, 12:22:29 PM
Nice finds Chris well done my friend. What problem did you have with the Euroace? I hope not too big a problem.

Regards Richie sixpence  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 10, 2014, 12:38:54 PM
                                I found that the machine had gone off after placing it on the ground whilst using the ProPointer and from time to time the machine shut down when I pressed the pin pointing button. I did open the battery box and checked the battery contacts; one battery was a little out of line and perhaps not making a good connection. The batteries were also down to the last two bars on the power indicator. I think that the pinpointing facility puts extra drain on the batteries and with them being low, perhaps that is why the machine shut down.

                                I plan on visiting the site next Wednesday and will make sure that the detector has fresh batteries in. I will also make sure that the power indicator is indicating full strength before I commence detecting. It may also be worth changing batteries before they get that low next time!  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Richie sixpence on April 10, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
Ah I see perhaps re charged batteries isn't the way to go Chris perhaps when you recharge them they don't resume full power i.e 1.5 volts I have noticed that if you put a volt meter on used batteries they don't have the full 1.5 volts. I was told that using re chargeable batteries i.e nicads and ni hydride was not a good idea because on full charge they only have a voltage of 1.2 volts which cuts the total voltage down considerably.
I take it you didn't have spare batteries with you Chris?
Good luck and HH next time you try the new permission out Chris  :) 

Regards Richie sixpence  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 10, 2014, 01:58:24 PM
                     Stupidly, I left my spare batteries at home. The standard batteries that I do recharge, tend to hold less and less capacity each time they are charged but this is the first time that I have run into this problem. I normally carry fresh new batteries, as well as well as normal batteries that I have recharged. I will make doubly sure that I have plenty of batteries ready for next Wednesday!  ;D


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Dungbeetle on April 10, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
Chris, when a building site commences normally they strip the top soil down to the clay and heap it up somewhere. That's the soil to investigate if you are allowed.


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 10, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
                       I know, I know, I know!!!!!!!!!!  :'(   There is a great heap of spoil that they have skimmed off and it is sitting within the fence boundary for their compound. I visited the site this morning asked the site manager could I detect the heap of spoil if I donned protective footwear and a hard hat, but he said that was a no go due to health and safety regulations and insurance. He said that I was ok to continue detecting where I was doing. I graciously thanked him and said that I fully understood his position and that was why I offered to don safety gear. I'm going to the site next Wednesday and plan on spending the whole day there.
                       As we were talking, the site engineer had a favourable look on his face and I was tempted to think that he would have given me permission. Perhaps between now and Wednesday some one will have a change of mind. I still have a lot of ground to go at and I am counting on a lot of older finds. I will have to get the prayer mat out and do some grovelling.  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Richie sixpence on April 10, 2014, 04:14:48 PM
Good luck with it Chris and I do hope you get a change of mind from them  ;).
The unfortunate thing with health and safety it is essential that it is kept to or someone can end up in jail  :o :o :o :o :o 


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 10, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
Hi Richie,
                I have just checked out my EuroAce documentation and the detector is still within the warranty two year period. Once I change the batteries, I don't think that I will have any more problems. But should the problem reoccur; I know that Regtons will look after me. 


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: 150aceboy on April 10, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
Well done on the finds Chris, hope the euro ace is sorted m8, good luck on your next outing fella  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Val Beechey on April 10, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Chris, well done on the finds and getting permission on,  or around a building site.
 I've got one coming up and have permission to detect the area in full before they start.  I've sent an interim report to the M.D and mentioned that I hoped the finds would be more interesting when the started excavating provided I still had permission.  So far I've had no reply. Ah Well, take it as it comes eh.
Now Batteries.  I have preached about this before and given up but being as it's you I'll mention it again. ::)   
BUY SOME ENELOOP   They are only slightly more expensive but have a much longer life than any of the others. They don't suffer from memory problems,  charge each time to the full capacity and don't deplete on charge if left unused.  I use 8 in a pod for my Safari and usually get at least 10 hours from one charge.

Val


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: grego on April 10, 2014, 06:53:44 PM
Well done Chris I have found that if you use the very best rechargables in the Garrett and recharge after two blocks have been used and dont let them go any lower they hold the charge well.


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 10, 2014, 07:06:48 PM
Great haul there. Nice one  :) .


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 10, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
                                                Thanks for the interest folks, and thanks for the battery advice Val. I didn't realise that you are using a Safari. I was contemplating upgrading to a Safari but at £800 they are presently out of my reach. My wife, Margaret, won £300 on the Irish lottery last week and gave me a £20 tip. So, with my £84 scrap money and the £20 tip, I now have the first hundred pounds towards an upgrade.

                                                 I have been watching videos for the Safari on Youtube and have even bought the book by Andy Sabisch but it is going to be a while befor I can afford one!  :'(


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: legio11augustus on April 10, 2014, 07:26:40 PM
a dead battery can still read 1.5 v ..its the amperage that matters


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 13, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Thanks for that informative snippet.  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 16, 2014, 06:22:06 PM
                                   Paid a second visit to the building development this morning and spent several hours detecting in beautiful weather. Plenty of coins kept turning up and some nice pieces of brass to add to the scrap bin. I even managed to find a bit of cheap bling but can't decide if it is supposed to be an ear-ring or a ring.

                                  The EuroAce behaved it's self really well after fitting brand new batteries and checking that the contacts were ok. My pinpointing even improved.  ;)



Title: Re: Building development
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 16, 2014, 06:24:08 PM
Great haul there. Looks a good site. Well done  :)  .


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 16, 2014, 06:30:43 PM
                     Strange thing; I found a number of cut pieces of decimal coinage. Mostly pieces of 2p pieces, but none were close together.  :-\


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Val Beechey on April 16, 2014, 06:40:44 PM
That's a good days digging Chris. Nice to have a selection of coins and bits and pieces.

Val


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: roaljodaka on April 16, 2014, 06:44:10 PM
 As we were talking, the site engineer had a favourable look on his face !!, did he have a wedding ring on  ;D ;D ;D lmao  ;)


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 16, 2014, 06:46:20 PM
He he he!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: musket ball on April 16, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
you did well there mate.im lucky that i work in the building trade.so can detect new sites that im on.


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 16, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
That's a good days digging Chris. Nice to have a selection of coins and bits and pieces.

Val

Hi Val,
           my pinpointing has even improved. Must be all the practice. 80 per cent of the time the target was bang in the middle of the hole!!


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 16, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
you did well there mate.im lucky that i work in the building trade.so can detect new sites that im on.

                     You lucky fellah! My son is a site engineer; I suppose I should see if he can get me onto any sites. Problem is, he is in Australia!   :'(


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Val Beechey on April 16, 2014, 06:55:40 PM
Isn't it nice when that happens.(not often enough with me)    Just dig a nice little plug and it's just sitting there waiting to come out and be loved. ;D


Val
 


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 16, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
                    I think that the accuracy is more down to the double D coil. Once I have located the target, I slowly move the coil left and right whilst drawing it back towards me. As soon as the machine falls silent, I do the same again at a 90deg angle and bingo the little blighter should be within an area no wider than a border spade blade. OK, some times it's in the side wall of the hole!                   


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: welsh john on April 17, 2014, 07:28:56 PM
                   I think that the accuracy is more down to the double D coil. Once I have located the target, I slowly move the coil left and right whilst drawing it back towards me. As soon as the machine falls silent, I do the same again at a 90deg angle and bingo the little blighter should be within an area no wider than a border spade blade. OK, some times it's in the side wall of the hole!                    
I do the same with the Explorer se I hardly use the pinpoint mode as I get good pinpointing results using this method with
a Patapus coil.


Title: Re: Building development
Post by: Christoph1945 on April 18, 2014, 09:21:28 AM
                           I was always frustrated with the pinpointing facility on the EuroAce; some times it was spot on and some times not so good. I put it all down to my lack of experience pinpointing, but as soon as I started doing my pinpointing the above way my accuracy improved a hundred fold and I now cut a turf no bigger than the width of a garden border spade.

                           Ok, now and then the target is in the wall of the hole. But yes, I find pinpointing a lot better now!  ;)


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