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Title: New Time Team special
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 22, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
A new episode of Time Team Specials is to be aired on the 1st of December with the brief of trying to locate the true site of the Battle of Hastings.
Fingers crossed on it being as good as it sounds. ;)

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cqj4m9/time-team--1066-the-lost-battlefield---a-time-team-special (http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cqj4m9/time-team--1066-the-lost-battlefield---a-time-team-special)


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Dryland on November 22, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
Looking forward to it , I enjoy a bit of time team


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: dances with badgers on November 22, 2013, 07:15:30 PM
doubt it lol


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: galoshers on November 22, 2013, 08:00:21 PM
its an easy job if they did it like the site of custers last stand .
a large number of detectoists in plotted areas looking for and mapping finds.
but they wouldnt do it that way as it would give credence to those they demean and make them look dumb.
so they will fudge it somehow to uphold their learned status.

they tape off say 35 metre squares and employ 50-100 hunters to carefull check the areas and mark finds ,keep doing this till they have an accurate picture of all the possible areas .

job done ,sorted .


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: CUT/HALF on November 22, 2013, 08:29:14 PM
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: DEADLOCK on November 22, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
One not to miss look forward to that one


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: galoshers on November 23, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
The Battle of Hastings was fought on 14 October 1066 between the Norman-French army of Duke William II of Normandy and an English army under the Anglo-Saxon King Harold II, during the Norman conquest of England. It took place approximately 7 miles (11 kilometres) north-west of Hastings, close to the present-day town of Battle, East Sussex, and was a decisive Norman victory.

The background to the battle was the death of the childless King Edward the Confessor in January 1066, which set up a succession struggle between several claimants to his throne. Harold was crowned king shortly after Edward's death, but faced invasions by William, his own brother Tostig and the Norwegian King Harald Hardrada (Harold III of Norway). Hardrada and Tostig defeated a hastily gathered army of Englishmen at the Battle of Fulford on 20 September 1066, and were in turn defeated by Harold at the Battle of Stamford Bridge five days later. The deaths of Tostig and Hardrada at Stamford left William as Harold's only serious opponent. While Harold and his forces were recovering from Stamford, William landed his invasion forces in the south of England at Pevensey on 28 September 1066 and established a beachhead for his conquest of the kingdom. Harold was forced to march south swiftly, gathering forces as he went.

The exact numbers present at the battle are unknown; estimates are around 10,000 for William and about 7000 for Harold. The composition of the forces is clearer; the English army was composed almost entirely of infantry and had few archers, whereas about half of the invading force was infantry, the rest split equally between cavalry and archers. Harold appears to have tried to surprise William, but scouts found his army and reported its arrival to William, who marched from Hastings to the battlefield to confront Harold. The battle lasted from about 9 am to dusk. Early efforts of the invaders to break the English battle lines had little effect, therefore the Normans adopted the tactic of pretending to flee in panic and then turning on their pursuers. Harold's death, probably near the end of the battle, led to the retreat and defeat of most of his army. After further marching and some skirmishes, William was crowned as king on Christmas Day 1066.

Although there continued to be rebellions and resistance to William's rule, Hastings effectively marked the culmination of William's conquest of England. Casualty figures are hard to come by, but some historians estimate that 2000 invaders died along with about twice that number of Englishmen. William founded a monastery at the site of the battle, the high altar of the abbey church supposedly placed at the spot where Harold died.


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 23, 2013, 01:13:23 PM
 ??? ??? and your point is ???


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Spooyt Vane on November 23, 2013, 02:44:06 PM
What do you want altared Geof ;D?


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: galoshers on November 24, 2013, 07:06:07 PM
^^ giving a reminder of what occurred  and the size of the task do you have a problem with that ?


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: handyman [Alan} on November 24, 2013, 07:17:03 PM
no need to be aggressive galoshers!  try asking politely.


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 24, 2013, 07:52:09 PM
No Problem at all but as we all, as far as I know, went to school i just wondered what you were trying to point out?


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: galoshers on November 25, 2013, 09:45:08 AM
supercilious
suːpəˈsɪlɪəs,sjuː-/
adjective
adjective: supercilious

    1.
    behaving or looking as though one thinks one is superior to others.
    "a supercilious lady's maid"
    synonyms:   arrogant, haughty, conceited, disdainful, overbearing, pompous, condescending, superior, patronizing, imperious, proud, lofty, lordly, snobbish, snobby, overweening, smug; More
    pretentious, affected;
    scornful, mocking, sneering, scoffing;
    informalhoity-toity, high and mighty, uppity, snooty, stuck-up, fancy-pants, toffee-nosed, snotty, jumped up, too big for one's boots
    "a supercilious young minister"
    antonyms:   humble, modest

Origin


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 25, 2013, 10:03:42 AM
Not at all, as I said "we all" thus mean the majority and therefore showing no greater knowledge than anyone else.


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: handyman [Alan} on November 25, 2013, 12:41:09 PM
A 2nd aggressive post galoshers, with no reason or explanation of your rationale. If you are going to challenge anothers views, please try and argue with a degree of respect.

If this is beyond you, then i would venture to suggest that the DW forum is not for you, and that maybe its time you departed gracefully.


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: jonty on November 25, 2013, 06:46:59 PM

I'm fully behind galoshers on this one. The poor bloke makes what he considers to be a sensible contribution to the debate on Time Team. Such contributions, let us remember, are the lifeblood of this forum.
He is then sucked into a war of words out of which nobody emerges with any credit. Let us have a sensible conclusion to this topic.


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: cardiffian on November 25, 2013, 10:47:34 PM
I never realised there was any doubt as to the location of the battle. In the 90's I worked not far from Hastings and managed to visit the Abbey. If I remember correctly it is stated that the Abbey was built at the site of the battle as a mark of respect for all those who perished, Harold and the English included. At the abbey you look out on to the adjoining fields and an information board depicts where all the different factions were sited etc.


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Val Beechey on November 26, 2013, 05:40:40 AM
Cardiffian,  I think this is what sparked the debate. I remember seeing something about it on T.V.  where the two sites were visited and the argument put forward.

http://www.historyextra.com/news/battle-hastings-location-dispute-conspiracy-theory (http://www.historyextra.com/news/battle-hastings-location-dispute-conspiracy-theory)

Val


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 26, 2013, 09:51:49 AM
If you look on Youtube there are a few videos about the different places, some show a metal detecting survey run by the main proponent of the site being wrong
Crowhurst Battle of Hastings site (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyLy18fTlsE#ws)
Having organised surveys for several years in connection with the 60-61 Group I have to say I'm less that impressed by their technique  ???


Title: Re: New Time Team special
Post by: cardiffian on November 26, 2013, 10:33:14 PM
Thanks Val and Geoff. I will watch the video tomorrow when I have more time. Interested to see the debate about this issue.
Alan


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