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Title: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Moncó on August 06, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
Hi Guys / Girls

I am now the proud owner of a Whites Pulse induction Surf.
I purchased from Crawfords, and must say was very satisfied with the provided service, Bought on the Thursday and delivered on the Monday…

Fate however has a cruel cruel sense of humor and irony.

I rapidly unpacked the machine, very enjoyable moment, has a quick read through the owner’s manual and hit the beach at night.

I generally hit the beach with my Teknetics G 2, it copes well with wet sand. Anyway, there I was trying my new machine….
Everything is 100 % operational and great, I was disappointed however with the finds..

Lack of discrimination and different tones makes you dig everything, and it is not an easy job whilst the small surf is knocking your machine about and filling the hole your trying to dig, also due to lack of 2 tones, the size of the disc, when you hit an object it is hard to pinpoint, whilst compromised by the water and surf around you…….Not too easy…

Anyway, machine is waterproof, floats on the surface great…..

After getting fed up in the water, I hit the wet sand……Big difference in depth, my G2 with the ultimate Detech DD coil goes deep but a pulse induction goes that bit further, All I found all night was rubbish, hair pins, rotten coins and every bit of rubbish possible. I was very frustrated and losing my patience with the lack of finds, digging to Australia and the fact that I was cold wet and getting nothing for it with my brand new machine that cost me dearly..

Just to rub salt in the wounds a mate of mine borrowed my G 2 and hit the dry sand a struck gold, literally…. If it wasn’t bad enough he found a lovely gold ring, with a borrowed machine, I have spent a small fortune on machines and have insisted 3 times a week for the gold, but nothing……………..

Life’s a ``Beach´´

I think I will only be using this machine on very low tides two / three times a month, in an attempt to find that gold stuff…wet suit on and wading till my waist….



Any way here are some pics....

New toy arrived...
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Fist test..........

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My disapointing finds.............

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My mates finds / G 2 find...........

(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/5773/p2oa.jpg)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Neil on August 06, 2013, 11:00:11 AM
Great post Monco - I also have a Surfmaster - just not got round to using it properly yet as I tend to be in a field more than a beach - be interesting to see how you get on.

Enjoying reading your posts

cheers
Neil


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Moncó on August 06, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
Great post Monco - I also have a Surfmaster - just not got round to using it properly yet as I tend to be in a field more than a beach - be interesting to see how you get on.

Enjoying reading your posts

cheers
Neil

Its not that easy mate, especially when the beach is full of rubbish. I think Ill be more productive wading / low tide or in the winter, it is more a specific type of machine, designed for a specific type of search.

I have to get my head round that. I have invested in a machine but have to be pacient for the return....

I cant stand to see though all my mates finding gold and I cant find the bugger ;D ;D ;D

Oh well I can only insist persist and try and be a good boy and balance out that Karma....


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: dances with badgers on August 06, 2013, 12:52:09 PM
with a pulse stick to the lower tide line where there's less trash.with time you will get used to the sound of iron ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: ancientpat on August 06, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
If you want gold rings from the beach there are not many machines which will beat a PI.Yes you will dig rubbish but if you persist the gold will come. Neil will confirm what I have had from the beaches he published a picture for me some time ago showing a box of mainly 22ct rings. The low tides in the winter are the ones to go for and they can change from one tide to the next. Good luck, it is no different to land searching you have good days and bad days, the heavy rings are down deep.

                                                                Pat ;) ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: dances with badgers on August 06, 2013, 08:29:19 PM
i have seen a pic of pats rings and all i can say is WOW. ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: musket ball on August 06, 2013, 08:39:17 PM
your not doing so bad yourself mike .you remind me of bobby george with all the bling haha ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: dances with badgers on August 06, 2013, 08:49:03 PM
im goin to dig him up lol and jimmy saville :o


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: alun on August 07, 2013, 01:28:23 PM
Monco, just thank your lucky stars you aint got a Badger around!!!!!! or have you???? maybe thats why your gold has gone.
Quick question Badger, You been on holiday lately????  ::)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: alun on August 07, 2013, 01:39:30 PM
In all seriousness though, I have been thinking of  a PI unit next year. The Pastures are more interesting for me right now, but as the crops grow you do tend to be limited to certain area, and maybe like me end up on beach work, which has been good fun.
But before buying one I would like to go out with someone who has a PI unit to show me the ropes before buying, and convince me that it would drag more up than a DFX.  ;D
Any offers?


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Chef Geoff on August 07, 2013, 02:04:03 PM
Keep going Monco your gold will turn up soon enough.
It's only a couple of years a go that I had a message from a very frustrated  Dances With Badgers asking how common it was to find rings on a beach and if there were any special tricks or settings as he couldn't seem to find one. I reguiled him with stories of me finding 3 gold rings in an afternoon which I'm sure he probably didn't believe at the time but look at him now. Your next time out could be the one ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Neil on August 07, 2013, 04:53:58 PM
Here is Pat's beach ring finds from over the years - most 22ct

All I can say is WOW! Inspiration to hit the beaches if it was ever needed.

Well done Pat - still teaching us Newbies a few tricks

See you soon
Neil


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: dances with badgers on August 07, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
oooh i got the horn ;D. yes if it was not for advice from geoff and dragonsbreath i would have gave up,so keep swingin monco the gold is there mate


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: herbie on August 07, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Here is Pat's beach ring finds from over the years - most 22ct

All I can say is WOW! Inspiration to hit the beaches if it was ever needed.

Well done Pat - still teaching us Newbies a few tricks

See you soon
Neil
Wow that's impressive!!


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: ancientpat on August 07, 2013, 07:01:43 PM
Thanks Neil for posting my picture again. I recently came across a notebook record of our ring finds starting on the 5th May 1977 up to 8thJan 1989 the total was 423 but not all gold, some silver. This was  some by my wife and in the early days some also by my son. In those days I was still working and this was only on weekends. For some reason I stopped keeping a record at that day, probably got lazy in my old age !!

                                                       Pat ;) ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Chef Geoff on August 07, 2013, 07:35:24 PM
423? You probably ran out of ink Pat :D


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: cardiffian on August 07, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
Thanks Neil for posting my picture again. I recently came across a notebook record of our ring finds starting on the 5th May 1977 up to 8thJan 1989 the total was 423 but not all gold, some silver. This was  some by my wife and in the early days some also by my son. In those days I was still working and this was only on weekends. For some reason I stopped keeping a record at that day, probably got lazy in my old age !!

                                                       Pat ;) ;)
Were most of these found on Barry Island Pat. 1977 was in the early days of Cardiff Scan Club and I remember regularly going there with Barrie (The Jinx) and the late Graham Mould. We would regularly find rings in those days. My best was two gold rings on the wet sand after a storm. They came out in the last 15 minutes and the holes were filling with water as I was digging. Both were Victorian and 22ct and 18ct. I still have them today. Does Barry Island still give them up as frequently today?


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Lady Marian on August 08, 2013, 07:33:08 AM
barry beach like porthcawl/aberavon has100's of rings on them just waiting to be found just at the moment they also have in excess of 2-3ft of extra sand on them. theres not a pulse or multi freq detector out there that can get the depth you need to reach the goodies but hopefully over the winter month's the sand levels will drop and the rings will start showing up again


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: dances with badgers on August 08, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
correct the beaches have also just had a re load with the dry weather.when the sand goes get in there and you will do well.when the sand goes i will be out every tide i can.porthcawl is a hard beach ,there musts be thousands of rings on there but they are over a meter deep
 barry island has had a right hammering over the years but should hold fresh drops.


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: probono on August 08, 2013, 02:01:57 PM
I'm reading all of this with renewed interest.

I've got a White's PI, which I bought for another reason, but have never used (the stie was too noisy).

I've been tempted by beaches, but hearing that in the summer there so much more sand on them is really interesting - and also that the low tide margin in winter is good.

I don't have the waterproof headphones on mine as I had to cut them off and replace them (or rather get woodbob to do it for me!) as they were cream crackered.....

Maybe I'll make it to Barry this winter :) - especially as it is just down the road from where I normally detect :)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: ancientpat on August 08, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Hi Alan,
A good number did come from Barry but also Porthcawl and one or two from Aberavon.
I had a half sovereign also from Aberavon and my wife had one from Barry. My son Kevin had a  Sovereign and a half from Barry, and a large ring with a sovereign from Porthcawl. I am quite sure that all the popular beaches still have plenty on them when the sand is right. Barry has had millions of trippers over the years since Victorian times, just look at the old pictures of Barry, I remember in the years after the last war before air travel started you would  find it difficult to find a place to sit on the sand.

                                                     Pat ;) ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: ancientpat on August 08, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
By the way, being an accountant I always used a pencil, easier to correct your mistakes.

                                                 Pat ;) ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: cardiffian on August 08, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
Hi Pat. I remember the old pre decimal silver coins coming up consistently all the way across the beach in a very wide swathe. They always seemed to follow the same pattern when surfacing. I don't think it was just down to the numbers on the beach. There was an author (Stuart ?) who had a long series of books out on Wales. I remember seeing early pictures in one of his books of sort of sail boats on wheels. They would go across the beach selling refreshments to the bathers. That could be another reason as to why so many came up on the wet sand. They were lost while doing transactions right down to the low water mark. Anyone else aware of this? 


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: Lady Marian on August 08, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
theres one spot on barry beach i used to get a lot of farthings and only farthings someone did tell me what was being sold from a barrow there but i've forgot now :D


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: ancientpat on August 08, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
Yes Alan you are right about the selling from boats on the beach and the books you mentioned were by Stuart Williams, I have few in my bookcase. The one thing I have never worked out among all the hundreds and hundreds of coins off the beach you very rarely find halfcrowns. It wasn't unusual to find anything up to 40 to 50 coins in a search mostly copper and small silver .

                                       Pat ;) ;)


Title: Re: Beach detecting, pulse induction
Post by: dances with badgers on August 08, 2013, 08:01:28 PM
i get a couple of half crowns but the more modern ones each year


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