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Title: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on July 25, 2013, 05:40:48 PM too big to b a normal button, maybe a brooch? or horsey thingy? fastener?
at first I thought celtic, especially design. cheers. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Da Monkey on July 25, 2013, 06:24:08 PM No idea of scale... Plughole cover or sommat like that... ?
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Neil on July 25, 2013, 06:51:27 PM It looks like one of those "Celtic Danglers" in Bennetts Artefacts book - I'll check it against my copy in an hour or so.
I'll also book my taxi in case I'm wrong! ;D Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Chef Geoff on July 25, 2013, 07:07:12 PM :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Neil you missed your vocation, you should have been an FLO or even better the finds expert on Time Team........."Ah what we have here is what's known as a Celtic Dangler!" I can hear it now ;D
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Neil on July 25, 2013, 09:37:57 PM Chef - reference - Nigel Mills Celtic Artefacts see reference C46 page 30 or try page 41 in Benet's Artefacts.
I was looking at Monkeys via a mobile phone and I am more than likely wrong looking at it on a pc now, but they certainly have stylistic similarities. ::) My taxi has arrived and I need to get my coat!!!!! ;D Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Chef Geoff on July 25, 2013, 09:51:13 PM Page 41? how old is your Benets? page 96 in mine. Sorry I wasn't doubting you id just the terminology lol
"Bridal bit terminal" just sound more official, though not as much fun, as a Celtic dangler :D Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Neil on July 25, 2013, 09:57:21 PM I don't know you new found detectorists having all these posh modern books!
I bow to your greater knowledge on this occasion and my First Edition 2000 Benets! ;D See you soon mate Neil Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Da Monkey on July 25, 2013, 09:57:39 PM I'm sticking with my Victorian plughole blocker, lol.
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: jayhay69 on July 26, 2013, 11:22:42 AM what about these Dan?
http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/500890 (http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/500890) http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=188&cat=18 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=188&cat=18) Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on July 26, 2013, 11:42:19 AM Cheers for that. Not quite the same. Been scouring the net but nothing the same.
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Discrim-Me on July 26, 2013, 12:53:52 PM Decor from an old grandfather clock ?
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: celticspikey on July 26, 2013, 02:50:00 PM too big to b a normal button, maybe a brooch? or horsey thingy? fastener? Beautiful, got Celtic all over it :) (bridal bit terminal) sometimes disjointed hoarse or similar, rare and worth several hundred pounds easy.!!!at first I thought celtic, especially design. cheers. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: jayhay69 on July 26, 2013, 05:58:06 PM dan
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=40602&cat=all (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=40602&cat=all) Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on July 26, 2013, 08:49:41 PM too big to b a normal button, maybe a brooch? or horsey thingy? fastener? Beautiful, got Celtic all over it :) (bridal bit terminal) sometimes disjointed hoarse or similar, rare and worth several hundred pounds easy.!!!at first I thought celtic, especially design. cheers. WOW really? That's surprised if correct. Tis a nice object. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: jayhay69 on July 26, 2013, 09:23:08 PM Gordon Heritage said
It's late celtic 50BC to 50AD... these are known as Hangers, danglers or fobs.... they were used to hold things from a harness. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on July 26, 2013, 09:29:05 PM Wow. I am stumped ;D really really chuffed with that. :)
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Chef Geoff on July 26, 2013, 09:38:52 PM Gordon Heritage said It's late celtic 50BC to 50AD... these are known as Hangers, danglers or fobs.... they were used to hold things from a harness. Don't you start with the "Danglers" :D So what your saying is....you should have listened to Neil in the first place ??? Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on July 26, 2013, 10:00:42 PM Wow now that is the horses dangly bits! :)
Doesn't look Celtic to be honest though, too......neat. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Chef Geoff on July 26, 2013, 10:16:11 PM I know what you mean Taff, it's a bit too squared off on the one side ???
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: The Doc on July 26, 2013, 10:23:01 PM I agree that the form is that of an Iron Age fob or dangler.
Will need to be seen by a FLO or other expert to determine that it's not a more recent production deliberately designed in this Celtic style. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: nobby on July 26, 2013, 10:30:08 PM Im with Taff im affraid looks more machine formed
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on July 26, 2013, 10:43:14 PM A couple of better pics
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/danny5497/20130726_233518.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/danny5497/20130726_233532.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/danny5497/20130726_233620.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/danny5497/20130726_233546.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/danny5497/20130726_233630.jpg) Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Dungbeetle on July 26, 2013, 11:07:17 PM I hope it is Celtic for you Dan but when you showed it to me it looked too bright for Celtic after all those years in the ground. Good luck anyway hope I'm proved wrong !
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Chef Geoff on July 26, 2013, 11:10:24 PM Ahhh! now I can see the shank. Yes I think Neil was right, They are now all being classed as Fobs but there is still no known use for them.
This is one from close to your area.... Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Neil on July 26, 2013, 11:12:40 PM The old now "I can see the shank chestnut . . ."
You should never have doubted my knowledge of danglers mate! ;D Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Chef Geoff on July 26, 2013, 11:19:15 PM I never did Neil ::) It's just knowing that the Iron age Britons went into battle naked, the term "Celtic dangler" forms a whole different picture in my head which is so so wrong :D
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on July 26, 2013, 11:22:38 PM I never did Neil ::) It's just knowing that the Iron age Britons went into battle naked, the term "Celtic dangler" forms a whole different picture in my head which is so so wrong :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: Dryland on July 26, 2013, 11:35:25 PM ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: cardiffian on July 27, 2013, 01:49:47 AM Sent you a pm Monkeymad.
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: celticspikey on July 27, 2013, 08:04:43 AM too big to b a normal button, maybe a brooch? or horsey thingy? fastener? Beautiful, got Celtic all over it :) (bridal bit terminal) sometimes disjointed hoarse or similar, rare and worth several hundred pounds easy.!!!at first I thought celtic, especially design. cheers. WOW really? That's surprised if correct. Tis a nice object. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on August 10, 2013, 03:31:48 PM Just had it identified. 100bc and very rare design and condition is rare too apparently.
well chuffed. The old folks just ordered me a nice gel case display to put it in. Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: jayhay69 on August 10, 2013, 05:13:54 PM with the money that makes you could of bought your own lol, all those doubters aswell who said it was modern lol
Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: hotmill on August 10, 2013, 06:32:35 PM Just had it identified. 100bc and very rare design and condition is rare too apparently. well chuffed. The old folks just ordered me a nice gel case display to put it in. Well saved mate. Cracking find! Title: Re: any ideas? Post by: monkeymad on August 10, 2013, 06:49:42 PM Personally, this is a keeper. Hence its going into.a gel display case.
then when the little one is older its something to start her off when im gone. history providing a start for the future in more ways than one. Absolutely thrilled with the outcome on this one. |